They weren't alone, but I thought these two inparticular were terrible tonight. Sinfield is the defensive weak link, and although he wasn't helped by some poor decsions from others around him he seems slow to react and his lack of pace gets exposed when he defends on the fringes. His play with ball in hand was poor as well. He has a very good mid - long range passing game but rarely uses it choosing instead to go on his own or throw a 5hite flat pass.

Peacock still has all the heart in the world but sadly he's really starting to look his age. He was dominated by the Warrington front row I thought.

12 rings earns you some off days. Take a look at Peacock's stats last week or Sinfield's display against Manly and you'll realise they can both still contribute.

Sinfield > Ward
Peacock > singleton

That not to say the latter two shouldn't be integrated during the remainder of this season

Yes they can both contribute, but can they still do it with the consistency that is the hallmark of a star at this level?

I'd like to see them both prove me wrong, but to me it looks like a few of our elder statesmen are starting to look a little tired.

I'm not sure either can be considered elite anymore and I'd be surprised if either played in next years world cup. They are still both good players though more than capable of playing at SL level

Agreed that both had poor, poor games tonight, but the effort was there. We need an attacking structure. There is a shocking amount of occurences where it takes a lot of our players 3 tackles to get behind the ball. Therefore there are no options and then we get dominated in each and every tackle.

I agree to a point but both players look on the decline. All the momentum went out of the attack when Sinfield gets the ball at the moment and his defense (along with everyone on the right hand side) is becoming a real problem. Peacock's stats still look OK, but its clear that nowhere near the player he was a few years ago, he's very slow playing the ball, his leg drive after contact has diminished and he seems a lot softer in defense. As I said the effort and work rate is still as good as ever but he's nowhere near as effective anymore. Although I do think he'd benefit from playing shorter spells.

Every dog has its day...but that day comes to an end at some point. Sad as it is, maybe these champions just arent what they were. Difficult decisions need to be made, but thats what seperates a coach from a great coach.

Sinfield is never going to be good when we have no options in attack, our off the ball work is shameful for the last couple of months and is the reason why sinfield is forced into the going on his own a lot at the minute. It's also the reason why we're getting bashed week after week, defence can just jam in on the (1 and only) runner and have complete control over the ruck.

Both our backrowers and centres need to take a look in the mirror IMO

Spot on.
It has to be down to the coaching staff to insert some discipline, some structure in attack and defence, and some intensity into this team. Yes halfbacks need to organise out there, but they will not be taking training, they have no actual authority over the team. The coaches absolutely have to get to grips with this team.

Sinfield and Peacock have still got alot to offer. But for Sinfield it is in the forwards and not as a dominating HB.
Briers showed how to vary the play tonight be it his kicking or running the line.
Sinfield slows the options down and his defence is the worse I have seen of him for a number of years.
JP needs a dominating pack to play with and his style has become predictable.
Having said that I don`t think anybody played well tonight and if we don`t give some of the youngsters a run over the next 3 games the forwards will be on their knees come August.

....and yet both are selected England players. Someone needs shooting for their selection choices. Sad indictment for the international team really.

I still have a lot of time for Sinfield....but he is trying too much without much support. His defence on the right fringes is being exposed more and more owing to his lack of pace.

Peacock is shot. Schofield was right. Time for the lad to hang up his boots, or at least be used sparingly for much shorter periods in matches where he is still selected.

Peacock is far from shot. He isn't as good as he once was but to pension him off is a disgrace. He has loads to offer still.

Come play off time I want him in my team, not the opposition

Do you wear spectacles.....with a rose tint ?

No. I just recognise that rugby players are still capable of playing once they pass the age of 22, something that seems to pass you by.

If you were coach the first team would just be extension of the academy with a complete overhaul every 2 years

He's not shot, but he doesn't seeem capable of being effective for 50-60 mins a game anymore. He reminds me of Barrie McDermott around 2004/5.