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Guys,

The 1st 25mins aside.

It is clear that we started playing better when Hardaker was put to Fullback and Delaney went to Centre.

If it wasn't for 2 injuries we might have been closer.

I would go for Hardaker at Fullback and Senior in at Left Centre.

But we certainly need an injection of new blood into the squad in key positions.

The Props need to be looked at 1st!

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Your first comment contradicts the second, had Webb remained on the field the penalty count and therefore score would probably have been higher.

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Senior isn't even fit he's done forget it let it go!!

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Quote: rhinoms "Senior isn't even fit he's done forget it let it go!!'"


*whisper* I think ML is Keef

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Quote: Il Pirata "*whisper* I think ML is Keef'"


Senior doesn't live in Middleton.

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Quote: rhinoms "Senior isn't even fit he's done forget it let it go!!'"


In your Opinion icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Middleton_Loiner "Senior doesn't live in Middleton.'"


I bet hes glad of that eusa_shifty.gif

ML, I have loved Keith over the years like all Southstanders, but hes not played in the SL for how long now? Time to move on.

I dont think it would be a good move for us or him (apart from financially) to come back. Let remember him as the legend as he deserves to be and not as a potential failure if he came back.

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Too many players are not doing it at the moment.
Ablett, Webb, Hardaker, JP, Bailey, Kylie, Smith and Sinfield.
Maybe it is because they have played too many games and are just plain knackered.
Some of them need a rest and or dropping.
If we continue letting Sinfield play at SO them we have no chance whatsoever.
Put Ward in at SO with McGuire SH and Burrow off the bench.
Unfortunately we have loaned out McShane otherwise he would be starting hooker.
Bring back Amor and give Singleton a game or three.
Put BJB/Hardaker to FB and give either Chisholm or Kleinhorst a run.
I am beginning to think Nantwhich is right and maybe move Hall to centre as he wont ever get a pass from Hardaker.
The Exiles game has come at the right time and it gives McD the opportunity to try some of the youngsters and let some of the old men have a break.
Saints last night played a young kid at centre and he bagged 3 tries.
We were bossed once again by two decent half backs last night one who is nearing 34 and the other a kid making a name for himself.
We have a cracking set of youngsters yet we persist in using the same old week in week out.
If the players are picking the team then sack the players not the coach.
Every week our pack is battered out of sight. Try something new!!!!

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If the players are picking the team, then frankly they need to go and so does the coach for letting them. I don't believe this is the case btw.

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There was so much wrong last night it's difficult to know where to begin but here's a few from my viewpoint.

The number of times last night that Sinfield stuck out a short hospital pass to someone already well-marked was shocking.
He can place a kick on the 5th nicely but if he's a Stand-off then I'm a banana.

Leeds' sliding defence was abysmal near the tryline ... it just didn't slide as fast as the ball moved sideways.
As for getting-up to them fast after a PTB, well they just didn't, Warrington made a minimum of 10 metres far too often.
McD needs to get the defence fixed pretty damn sharpish.

Offensively, they looked like they hadn't met ech other before last night, communication was poor and they were often in each other's way.
Burrow's good stuff came off him playing like a scrum half (except for the set move where he was a loose forward icon_biggrin.gif ), but McD still seems to have an aversion to him as a SH.

There is plenty of talent in the Leeds team, it's the coaching and game plan that is lacking.
IMHO McDermott is on borrowed time because I can't see GH allowing season ticket sales to dip too far.

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We need to freshen things up, maybe something like this would do better than the dross we are currently seeing.

Hardaker
Hall Keinhorst Watkins BJB
Ward McGuire
Griffin Lunt Amor
Delaney JJB
Sinfield

Burrow Singleton JP Ablett

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If the CEO is genuinely asking whether this team has 'run it's course' then I wouldn't be looking forward to the appraisal that is awaiting the person who is responsible for contracting them to 2013 and beyond (Bailey apart?)

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Ward in the main showed last night that he has a spark that is needed at half-back and desperately lacking at pesent. Sinfield showed he can no longer be hidden defensively wide on the right. It's counter-productive in any case as he's a capable defender and organiser around the middle.

Seems to me there is a blindingly obvious way to address both these issues even if it means going back on earlier comments and justifications laid out by the club skipper and/or club coach.

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Quote: chapylad "Too many players are not doing it at the moment.
Ablett, Webb, Hardaker, JP, Bailey, Kylie, Smith and Sinfield.
Maybe it is because they have played too many games and are just plain knackered.
Some of them need a rest and or dropping.
If we continue letting Sinfield play at SO them we have no chance whatsoever.
Put Ward in at SO with McGuire SH and Burrow off the bench.
Unfortunately we have loaned out McShane otherwise he would be starting hooker.
Bring back Amor and give Singleton a game or three.
Put BJB/Hardaker to FB and give either Chisholm or Kleinhorst a run.
I am beginning to think Nantwhich is right and maybe move Hall to centre as he wont ever get a pass from Hardaker.
The Exiles game has come at the right time and it gives McD the opportunity to try some of the youngsters and let some of the old men have a break.



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We had players making tackles on one side of the pitch having to run to the other side of the pitch to get back into their assigned position, hospital balls being lobbed with gay abandon and fluffing up into the air harmless kickoffs instead of using the conditions to at least make Warrington work hard.

A very bad day at the office. I wonder what was said in the impromptu huddle at the end?

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Quote: tvoc "If the CEO is genuinely asking whether this team has 'run it's course' then I wouldn't be looking forward to the appraisal that is awaiting the person who is responsible for contracting them to 2013 and beyond (Bailey apart?)

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Ward in the main showed last night that he has a spark that is needed at half-back and desperately lacking at pesent. Sinfield showed he can no longer be hidden defensively wide on the right. It's counter-productive in any case as he's a capable defender and organiser around the middle.

Seems to me there is a blindingly obvious way to address both these issues even if it means going back on earlier comments and justifications laid out by the club skipper and/or club coach.'"
I agree on all counts. There are things that are easily capable of being fixed.

Ward looks ready. It's time to show some faith in him. It's time to put Burrow at 7 and it's time for Sinfield to defend where a 13 would normally defend.

These are not the only issues but they would be a damn good start.

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