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Personally really don't agree with this. There's a salary cap in this sport for a reason yet the RFL, Wigan and Sky have found a way to boost his salary far beyond what Wigan can afford to pay him. All because he was tempted by some more money in union so we had to give in to his greed and find a way to keep him. Don't get me wrong he's a great player at club and international level and it would have been sad so lose him from the game but
a) its a massive bending of the rules to boost his salary,
b) if all he's interested in is more cash in his pocket then so be it let him go to union rather than still get paid a hell of a lot and play the game he loves.
I'd have the same opinion whatever club and whatever player was in this situation.
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Personally really don't agree with this. There's a salary cap in this sport for a reason yet the RFL, Wigan and Sky have found a way to boost his salary far beyond what Wigan can afford to pay him. All because he was tempted by some more money in union so we had to give in to his greed and find a way to keep him. Don't get me wrong he's a great player at club and international level and it would have been sad so lose him from the game but
a) its a massive bending of the rules to boost his salary,
b) if all he's interested in is more cash in his pocket then so be it let him go to union rather than still get paid a hell of a lot and play the game he loves.
I'd have the same opinion whatever club and whatever player was in this situation.
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| Don't think anyone would have had a issue with Sam getting some media work. The problem arrises when it is confirmed it is as part of a package to keep him at Wigan. Will it be a package offered to all clubs who might be in danger of losing a player to union, and some may argue its unfair on other teams for example Leeds have appeared to sign up some of our young stars on long term contracts without the help of sky and raising the cap, at the expense of maybe further signings?
Not got a issue with him getting a media job, but just a few concerns it raises
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| Can't see a problem with a player earning a bit on the side as pundit. Players have appeared as pundits before and I'm sure they won't have done it for free. Barrie Mcdermott and Kevin Sinfield have appeared as pundits.
The only problem I have is yet more Wigan bias on Sky Sports. Of the current Sky personnel who have played pro rugby league only Stevo, Cullen and Wells have not at sometime in their career played for the Pie eaters.
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| Quote: Fieldheadrhino "Can't see a problem with a player earning a bit on the side as pundit. Players have appeared as pundits before and I'm sure they won't have done it for free. Barrie Mcdermott and Kevin Sinfield have appeared as pundits.
The only problem I have is yet more Wigan bias on Sky Sports. Of the current Sky personnel who have played pro rugby league only Stevo, Cullen and Wells have not at sometime in their career played for the Pie eaters.'"
Agree re no problems with him working for sky. It's just when it's stated he has the job as part of a package to keep him at Wigan and league. Seems like a circumnavigation of the cap.
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| The RFL also gave £££££ to keep Andy Farrell and Cunningham in RL in the past but then the £££££ wasn't available to anyone else.
I'm more in favour more of his deal been "cap exempt" and the Pies paying him rather than other organisations picking up the tab.
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| Is he being paid?
"But sources at both Sky and the Rugby Football League confirmed that the media work was "part of the package" that had persuaded the 22-year-old to sign a new five-year contract with Wigan late last year, when his elder brother Joel switched codes to Saracens."
Where does it say he is getting paid by anyone other than Wigan?
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| Can't believe Wigan & RFL have bent the rules!
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| Things could get really messy if Sam is on the Sky panel alongside his stalker Phil Clarke
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The Internet has provided some wonderful creativity, opportunities and knowledge sharing but it has also given a worldwide forum for people you would leave a full pint behind in the pub to avoid having to listen to them.
aboveusonlypie...
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| Where does it say he is getting paid by anyone other than Wigan?
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| Quote: Wigan Peer "Where does it say he is getting paid by anyone other than Wigan?'"
Your right it doesn't say it. But would be rather bizarre Wigan paying him to work for someone else. He might be doing it for free for the experience, however being a sceptical chap not so sure!
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| He may be a good young talent,but does that qualify him as a good engaging knowlegable RL pundit?
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| Quote: lionarmour87 "He may be a good young talent,but does that qualify him as a good engaging knowlegable RL pundit?'"
To be fair to him, he comes across fine on interviews I have seen on the TV.
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| I think I am more concerned with the Monday night games.....will this replace Fridays?
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| Quote: lionarmour87 "He may be a good young talent,but does that qualify him as a good engaging knowlegable RL pundit?'"
Tune into radio manchester now. He's very articulate.
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