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Quote: I am happy with the call. The view you get from the rail camera is slightly ahead of the play, :1qrf0cu4]but the rule is that both of Smith`s feet had to be behind the ball:1qrf0cu4] - that is the key to this. "Stuart Cummins wrote but the rule is that both of Smith`s feet had to be behind the ball - that is the key to this."

"If you look at the video sequence you will see that Smith checks himself, waiting for McGuire to kick through, and his body is leaning forward."

"But the key for the VR is to look where Smith`s feet are. His left foot is on the ground and when the ball is kicked his right foot is behind his left foot. His left foot is the key."

"The VR is looking at the point where the ball is kicked. Phil judged that Smith`s left foot was behind where the ball is kicked."

"Phil was adamant that he had no doubt about his decision, and he was sufficiently confident to award the try without resorting to using the benefit of doubt that a referee can use when he isnt certain about the decision"'"


The 2 Sky muppets ought to issue a full public apology for their biased and distorted version of the facts. icon_wink.gif

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has this been posted on saintssuicidewatch.com ?

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Quote: DoubleAone "The 2 Sky muppets ought to issue a full public apology for their biased and distorted version of the facts.
Eddie Hemmings has had his ass handed to him on a plate for the 2nd time now. The first was when he lambasted Ganson for giving NZ a penalty try against Aus in the WC.

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Quote: flipper "has this been posted on saintssuicidewatch.com ?'"


No, there's no one left to read it, they've all gone to buy some rope...

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[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj] Kevin Sinfield:982.jpg



Quote: flipper "has this been posted on saintssuicidewatch.com ?'"
never mind that. Someone needs to send this to Clarke, Eddie and the other clueless idiots paid to provide us withe "professional" "insights" on the game.

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Quote: G1 "never mind that. Someone needs to send this to Clarke, Eddie and the other clueless idiots paid to provide us withe "professional" "insights" on the game.'"


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Of course he's going to back his referee

Still offside and always will be. Shocking decision but there's not much anyone can do about it now

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Quote: TheOtherOne "Of course he's going to back his referee

Still offside and always will be. Shocking decision but there's not much anyone can do about it now'"


Translation: I am a sad bitter 3 Time Loser who refuses to accept the FACTS icon_wink.gif

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Quote: TheOtherOne "Of course he's going to back his referee

Still offside and always will be. Shocking decision but there's not much anyone can do about it now'"

Except he's not offside, learn the rules. You know, rules, those things Saints keep breaking whenever they win a Grand Final.

And while you're at it try and teach Saints wingers how to catch a ball, and see if Leon Pryce knows there was a big game last weekend.

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Quote: TheOtherOne "Of course he's going to back his referee

Still offside and always will be. Shocking decision but there's not much anyone can do about it now'"


This is the bit most Saints Fans are not getting! It was arguably a tough decision/call but can never ever be classed as a shocking one. He was not blatantly offside or either blatantly on-side! It was very, very close call and PB decided that he felt that both Smith's feet were behind the ball, and therefore on-side in his opinion. It is not shocking and you and all the Saints fans are deluded to even think it was. It was a tough call that could have gone either way and because it did not go Saints way... you have decided it was shocking. It wasn't... FACT!

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[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj] Kevin Sinfield:982.jpg



I can understand Saints fans not accepting the decision, even after its' been explained and justified.

Its' the clowns on Sky that still went on about it after the explanation that bugs me.

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Quote: G1 "I can understand Saints fans not accepting the decision, even after its' been explained and justified.

Its' the clowns on Sky that still went on about it after the explanation that bugs me.'"


Most Saints fans have accepted it - in fact even the players graciously accepted it after the match during the post match interviews much to the annoyance of Bill Arthur who was dying for Sean Long to have a whinge to keep in line with the Sky hysteria.

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Quote: Phil-P "Most Saints fans have accepted it - in fact even the players graciously accepted it after the match during the post match interviews much to the annoyance of Bill Arthur who was dying for Sean Long to have a whinge to keep in line with the Sky hysteria.'"
You're quite right. I wasn't having a pop at the Saints fans but simply saying I could understand them not being happy about it or questioning it given the defeat.

What I can't tolerate is the so called unbiased experts going on and on about it.

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Quote: G1 "Its' the clowns on Sky that still went on about it after the explanation that bugs me.'"


And will still go on about it.

For years.

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Quote: G1 "I can understand Saints fans not accepting the decision, even after its' been explained and justified.

Its' the clowns on Sky that still went on about it after the explanation that bugs me.'"

Agreed, the thing that annoyed me most was Phil Clarke. All season long when a similar incident has ocurred in a game he has always, without fail, told us about the rules whereby the player is only offside according to his feet not his body.
Yet on this one he immediately says that Smiths body is offside icon_evil.gif

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