Clearly all eyes on next week and a fired up Widnes side at home at this time of the year with all to play for and this is the consequences.

Cant say im overly fussed, just hope we don't have too many key injuries off the back of the game.

AFAIK, the RFL have been collecting data on knee injuries on the artificial pitch since Widnes started playing on it. I'm not sure what they're going to do with it, mind....

Cant believe how bad we were today, no leaders and a lack of pride in the shirt clearly, Burrow has to step up as captain and Hardaker has to up his responsibility as well, we may just have to hang on until the real leaders in our squad return from injury

If that were indeed the case that the pitch at widnes injures players then surely the widnes team would be severely depleted most of the season as obviously they play on it every other game! I cant buy into that one im afraid!!!!

Hardaker was prob upset at losing the kicking duties........and who are the 'real leaders'? (Unless you're on the bring back Sinfield - and Peacock - campaign of course

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Maguire and JJB for start, and our likely future captain in Ward
All three bleed Leeds and I think if those had played theres no way we would have lost so badly

We've got a long road ahead then .....who's due back first? Are you saying Burrow, Hall, Delaney don't 'bleed Leeds' ?

None are really leadesr though, the three Ive mentioned were all potential captains
think its Mcguire first who wont be back till after easter I think, like I said the others will just have to dig deep until then

If the I pitch is so bad and causes injuries.....how come widnes don't have a backlog waiting to see the pyshio? ?
You backward hillbillys \/

Small victories.....Lilley kicked 2 from 2 including a touch line effort.

If he was kicking last week we would have 2 points in the bag

My bad - I was going by what Ray French said on BBC Radio Merseyside, so obviously not the most reliable source.

Anyway, what a horrendous afternoon. I disjointed attack could be excused with us having a very inexperienced halfback pairing and Burrow at hooker, but conceding 56 points is simply awful with the personnel we had on the field.

Shocking performance. Most bottle less performance for 15.

Long hard look in mirror before next week.

These games happen - if one side gets the momentum it can be near impossible to turn it around

What was worrying was the poor performances from some of the senior players - I don't buy this WCC in their mind rubbish. It seemed to me the team was a rudderless ship today no direction both on and off the field.

Will the club be refunding our admission money - let's face it the team didn't turn up, the game was lost well before the injury to Briscoe. This was like watching the early 80's games against Bradford!

I'm a bulls fan so maybe I'm allowed to say, like watching the bulls in our last couple of years in super league. I don't agree you had one eye on next week, just a very bad day at the office

Us Bulls fans like you to lose, especially as we have won so convincingly at Whitehaven this weekend

Keep the faith guys we're only 2 weeks in and the Knee jerking on here is the Hot topic of the moment
We will be fine,This season is one of transition and we will still be in the mix for all of the trophies
Wigan,Saints,Wolves etc all had a dig last season and they all won nowt!

Knee jerk reaction is the foundation of social media, no point trying to stop the flow of sewage...

Of more concern is a possible proliferation of knee injuries this season. I haven't seen today's incidents but - from an objective point of view - was very unhappy with the circumstances of Shenton's injury.

I said prior to the match if we were going to play you now was the best time, and it's been ultimately shown to be correct. You're a squad still smarting from the loss of your talismans and finding their feet, and I suspect eventually you will click. We've had as many changes to our squad as most but it's not the same, we've not replaced anyone who was the heart of the team and being written off by loud mouths probably helped stoke some fires too.

Some interesting posts here, particularly about the pitch. Two teams playing on it under the same conditions, we've had a few seasons on it now and have been just fine so if it's not causing us an injury crisis, it shouldn't be to your team during one match. Incredibly rich blaming that.

after that can see us playing you in the million pound game .

The injuries being suffered around all teams already is quite alarming. The last 3/4 years we seem to be seeing more and more clubs having an injury crisis and earlier and earlier into the season to the point when teams have several out before the first game.

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As for the point some others made above about the WCC. I'd say it had some bearing on the score line at least, but not the result, likewise with the Saints score line on Thursday. I know teams like to play it down so they don't look unprofessional or disrespectful to that weeks opposition but it happens so often the weeks before and after a WCC or CC Final and also in other sports that it can't be coincidence.

After just watching the highlights I must say the 2 Leeds' tries were pretty good....especially the 2nd (Hardaker actually passed to keep the move flowing

). Watkins' finishing for the 1st was class.

However, Widnes's 1st try of the second half was particularly shameful....so many ambling back with their backs to the danger.

Ha ha, yes why not. If it was played at the Wembley of the north I fancy our chances

Quote ="nantwichexile"After just watching the highlights I must say the 2 Leeds' tries were pretty good....especially the 2nd (Hardaker actually passed to keep the move flowing ). Watkins' finishing for the 1st was class. However, Widnes's 1st try of the second half was particularly shameful....so many ambling back with their backs to the danger.'" www.skysports.com/watch/video/sp ... -for-leeds Video on Sky Sports showing the moments all 3 guys get injured, all 3 look in a lot of pain.

Quote ="nantwichexile"After just watching the highlights I must say the 2 Leeds' tries were pretty good....especially the 2nd (Hardaker actually passed to keep the move flowing ). Watkins' finishing for the 1st was class. However, Widnes's 1st try of the second half was particularly shameful....so many ambling back with their backs to the danger.'" www.skysports.com/watch/video/sp ... -for-leeds Video on Sky Sports showing the moments all 3 guys get injured, all 3 look in a lot of pain.

Sorry to say, absolutely nothing positive to say about today. I would be clutching at straws if I said Lilley kicking one from the touch line was a crumb of comfort. It may have no relevance to how poorly we played, but who in their right mind would order any sports team to set off at the same time as their supporters coaches across the busiest motorway in England for a 3pm kick off? Seeing their coach limp along the M62 for 2 hours leaving them little time for preparation was foolish to say the least. Was it last season when they did exactly the same thing and got another pumping ? I thought Zak put an enormous amount of work and effort in and Singleton was our best forward and the only one that was aggressive enough to knock anyone backwards and hurt them. Garbutt livened up near the end when it was too late, and that was about it. Credit to Widnes, they ran fast, straight and looked like a well oiled machine, the polar opposite to us. I'm not gonna claim the officials influenced the outcome to a great extent, but the less I see of Stokes the better, he was awful. You will not see a worse decision this season than when Hardaker was held down illegally when tackled a yard short after a great run. It was a 10 minute sin bin all day long and the pie eating tw** bottled it totally and put Widnes on a team warning instead, right on the hooter for half time





. The sooner they do away with that team warning bollo**s the better. I'm sure Stokes would have sent a Widnes player to the bin in the first couple of minutes of the 2nd half after he'd spent 15 minutes in the warm with his flapjack and Nescafé. Idiot ref, idiot rule.

I know a lot of teams play soft a week before a big game, but I've never liked it. I think its a poor way to warm up and the risk of injuries is worse if players are not focused on what they're doing.