I wonder how Buderus' MOTM record compares to Matt Diskin's since 2009?

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I'd guess the former depending on your reading skilzzs.

It takes around 2 hours a game in total to update the Leeds stats from the Opta website, take baseling readings for the next opponents, update between two spreadsheets, copy to paper, then input into a word document to finally copy and paste on to here.

I'd be doing most of that anyway for my own records but it probably still takes 30 minutes or so extra to create the weekly thread for on here.

Of course I fully appreciate that in the end that's my choice as I don't have to do that and nobody has to read it.

As nobody has claimed Diskin to be a legend of the game comparable to Ellery Hanley (guffaw) his influence on his teams should quite rightly pale when compared to the legendary Danny B.

Disco doers have a Harry Sunderland and a Leeds player of the year in a title winning season to his name. I sincerely hope Danny B can go on to emulate Matthew in that regard.

Would be pretty darn funny if that happened this year. Especially if Bradford finish outside of the top 8 again.

But we do, my dear boy, we really do.

It would be wonderful if that happened but what has Bradford's finish got to do with it?

Yes that would be an odd thing to do.

The analogy stating Hanley's qualities were not defined by GB's inability to win an Ashes series still holds true however.

If you believe I went any further than that perhaps you should re-read what I put on page 2.

Who says I was guffawing at you?

That clears that up then ...... sort of.

Another big finish from Danny on Saturday. Finishing the game with a penalty and a knock on because, just like the week before, he was completely gassed.

It may be his coaches fault but he's just not up to 76 mins a game.

I eagerly await a plethora of posters pointing out the errors were someone else's fault or That Danny coolly calculated the penalties and saved us from even greater catastrophe by knocking on or giving penalties away.

I've noted a few threads having a go at other players so I am sure on balance there has been some criticism of Buderus's errors somewhere.

Ahh the memories of buderus trotting around in that 9 jersey through 2011 will last with me for a lifetime.

I didnt think anyone had a great game on saturday other than Watkins in attack and broken running and Bailey. I initially thought that Buderus looked better playing the full game but now not so sure. Didnt have a great game tbh.
But I cant have an agenda aginst him I have too much on my plate with Burrow and Senior

Just observe and comment. Ignore the name of his back. It's those who blindly defend his every negative contribution that have an agenda.

Gareth, honestly do you not think we have bigger problems in the side at the moment. I would have thought regardless of agendas or allegiances, that at least Buderus is one of the shining lights of the season even if not meeting some posters expectations. Far better to concentrate on where there are issues.

Or those who highlight his every error yet seem unable to see the errors of their favourites - hypocritical I would say?

You don't think that the late game errors we've seen from Buderus are becoming an issue? Would they be an issue if they'd come from another player?

You don't think our hooker's inability to play for longer sustained periods is an issue? You don't think it will be an issue if McShane has to play longer to remedy this given McShane appears to be pretty decent going forward to a complete liability in defence?

Are these the biggest issues? Probably not, but they're still issues and we shouldn't ignore them because they concern a certain Mr Buderus.

Don't be hard on yourself. With McGuire not playing nobody expects you to pick up on his errors.

I think the team has a host of issues - defensively we are vulnerable all over the line - I would suggest this is a far bigger issue than whether Buderus can play 40/50/60 minutes and whether McShane's tackling technique is suspect?

The sides continued indiscipline - this is now with three different coaches - is very serious problem which suggests it cannot be sorted without a change of personnel

Our inability to go forward up the middle and make ground and dominate other packs is much more of an issue IMO

We have a creative pair that blow hot and cold and we don't seem to have an ability to deliver consistently - Sinfield created two tries then through the ball behind Webb and then threw it over Watkins head!! Our lack of set attacking plays is a serious issue.

Of course much more serious issues are lost in your miopic view of the game - don't let the bigger picture get in the way of your agenda.

Ding! Agenda alert.

Yes, Sinfield made mistakes. Given he had the ball in his hands as much as anyone else in the entire game (with the exception of Buderus) that's only to be expected.

He may not feel as much pressure to try and make things happen if he didn't have a headless chicken as a half-back partner however. Time's up Rob - you've been worked out. Either come up with another trick or move on.

All these alleged agendas ,player bias etc etc aside we have serious problems at the moment and we seem to go from the decent efforts against Hull/Wigan to the ridiculous against HKR/Quinns etc etc.
To be fair NO ONE is or should be beyond having their efforts either praised or criticised if we are to offer balanced opinions on performances both collectively and individually.
Trolls aside we all want to see the best from our team possible and at the moment we are'nt getting it from many or the team as a whole
It's only fair that G1 points out what Buderus has done error wise as it is when others point out what Burrow ,Senior ,hauraki Mcshane etc etc etc have done so there's no need for p!$$ing comps and save the put downs and snipes for tin pot trolls and Gledhill!!
We all have different opinions on the why's who's and wherefores lets share them ,discuss them and then [uagree that we're all wrong and GH knows best[/u!!

Who died and made you Queen?

It's a discussion forum - don't like it you know what you can do.

So lets discuss and not get all silly with name calling etc etc

I think he had a pretty decent game, though accepted he did make a couple of mistakes near the end of the game. 2 weeks in a row. I agree with that. If it becomes more of a pattern, then we need to take some action. At the moment I'll take his decent performances with errors, over some of the others out there.

And you think Buderus doesn't feel the same pressure playing behind a set of forwards that get beat up every week!! Like Sinfield he is trying his best to overcome the ineptitude of some of his team mates.

Thank you Leicester. After mine, the first objective assessment of Buderus which recognises there may be a developing issue with his errors at games end.

Nobody else has come on and addressed that point. All they have sought to do is claim "agenda" or criticise other players.

Nobody has posted anything to take away the negative points I have made about Buderus on a thread which is about Buderus. It's not a thread about Sinfield, Burrow, Senior, Watkins or others. If I have a negative view on those players or which to critique a part of their performance I will do so. What that has to do with Buderus's penchant for giving away late game penalties and possession is beyond me. It's as if it's simply sacrilege to observe anything negative about the guy. It's quite pathetic.

Not that stats are the be all and end all (and are often wrong), but his stats are pretty good, with the penalty and erorr (at the end of the game) looking like his only discretions.

I also thought you saying that this being indicative of him not being able to do the full 80 was a load of rubbish. It was clear from my view (on the soft) he only did about 60 mins



I'd like to see whether there is a pattern there, or just coincidence over 2 matches. Either was 28 tackles with no misses is pretty good, on top of some very incisive runs from dummy half early doors (though they disappeared later on

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30 odd k posts and that's all you got pal? At a time like this please offer up something else than Kirke (oops Buderus !) bashing.

You're just getting boring! Please for god sake change the record.

You really need to seek some therapy as your fixation with Kirke (oops Buderus !) is unhealthy. Next you'll be stalking him