I'll believe any North Stand redvelopment when I can stand in the South Stand and watch cricket. Until then I'll be taking every announcement with a pinch of salt

Serious question and no ulterior motive guys: is there any chance that something else might have taken a prior call on funds? A big tax bill, maybe?

I ask the question because there are potential implications well beyond Leeds if it were to be so. And I would very much prefer the answer to be a convincing "no".

A LOT of knee jerking on here but the above seems a fairly rational guess to me.

Given the fact that commercial credit remain difficult/expensive and that the conditions on the planning are likely to have potentially delayed development such that it might impact income it sounds suspiciously like Leeds Rugby are playing hardball with Leeds City Council

FWIW I think Leeds City Council should stop p*ssing around and put their hands in their pockets [size(admittedly I do now live way way outside of Leeds!!!)[/size

Gulfcoast_highwayman raises an awkward question for the Leeds hierarchy. The club must have received gate receipts way ahead of any other Super League club. With the Challenge cup finals in particular, no win bonuses will have been paid out.
So where has this income gone? Possibly to help the Tykes?

How long does an apporved planning application remain "Live"?

This could mean a way forward if the North Stand application is live?

There is too much hidden info on this though.

No surprise to us "Conspiracy theorists" - an owner with cash flow problems and a CEO now out of his depth - what did anyone really expect?

Why would they both expect the council to provide them with cheap financing - I bet every business in Leeds wishes they could tap into the local council for a below commercial rate loan. What planet is Caddick on? - it is obscene in a time when the council cannot afford to fund essential services that the club is expecting them to fund the construction of a new stand. Leeds rugby is a commercial business not a charity - they got lucky with the idiot from Leeds Met did they think the council was equally stupid - especially following the sour taste left by YCC following their inability to meet loan notes on the green palace.

The last set of accounts suggested all was not well in the Caddick cash flow position - for the propping up of the Tykes to come from internal and not external monies said much All those who see Caddick as a benefactor like Moran at Warrington think again - Caddick will be showing positive cash from his dealings with Leeds Rhinos - the much vaunted 7m overdraft was only cleared via the sale of the cricket ground to YCC.

The next set of accounts will interesting reading - the current cash position being one number also the provision for the tax bill and the 1.6m loan to the Tykes. Whilst in theory these are usable funds towards the stand, problem is where will the money come from to repay it? Certainly not the Tykes and it would appear not from Caddick - expecting a right off in the next set of accounts or two.

It is also no surprise the playing personnel is being cut back to such a degree - with no money what did anyone expect - Greg Inglis rocking up!! Fans have to accept the glory days to over for the foreseeable future unless a new young side is going to emerge from within the ranks of the junior set up at Leeds.

Given that financial issues have already brought about the cancellation of both North and South stand redevelopments, I wouldn't be holding out a great deal of hope for the second coming of a new North Stand getting past the planning stage either.

Given financial issues are clearly of such a great importance, I wouldnt rule out the club going for the cheapest option, which would be a joint venture with YCC for the northstand and the Southstand being built at the same time.

They'll need to sell a lot of bricks to Rhinos fans and YCCC members. A £90 price tag each doesn't quite meet the funding criteria though. In the meantime... [i"we have to sell season tickets for 2012 for the current dilapidated South Stand and we have to do it now!"[/i

That'll be the day.

YCCC are already reeling from the significant financial loss they made on the Pakistan test, to the point where they have backed out of bidding for games in other high profile test series because they can't afford it.

IIRC the next two Tests at Headingley are against New Zealand and Sri Lanka, hardly likely to fill the coffers with four days of capacity crowds. Chuck in relegation in the county championship and I'd be surprised if they have two pennies to rub together, unless Costcutter have had a good year and Colin Graves dips into his pocket.

YCCC finances make Leeds rugby look positively glowing!!

Where are YCCC going to get the funding for their part the ECB!! The cost of the north stand will be significantly more than the SS - it is simply a non runner - Gareth will have to continue sitting on those luxurious wooden seats

I find it very interesting that yesterday's news on the South Stand redevelopment, carefully worded as being put on hold (Translation"an agreement to form a working group to explore how the final phases of development for rugby and cricket at Headingley Carnegie (Translation

There isn't going to be any new stand replacing an old one at Headingley for quite some time.