Quote tvoc="tvoc"And sometimes even when he does advance the ball, Opta - Eddie Hemmings - and even some usually knowledgeable Leeds fans, chalk up another carry to Jamie Peacock. Having said that I'm not sure where Opta have placed the credit as they once gave Kirke a 40/20 that belonged to Rob Burrow and gave a farewell conversion success to Danny Buderus - although the Buderus goal has since been ammended looking at this: www.engagesuperleague.co.uk/stat ... eason=2012 Mistaking Peacock for Kirke - perhaps but Burrow for Kirke ..... really ..... come on.'" Kirkes 40/20 was for 40 drives in 20 games

Quote tvoc="tvoc"And sometimes even when he does advance the ball, Opta - Eddie Hemmings - and even some usually knowledgeable Leeds fans, chalk up another carry to Jamie Peacock. Having said that I'm not sure where Opta have placed the credit as they once gave Kirke a 40/20 that belonged to Rob Burrow and gave a farewell conversion success to Danny Buderus - although the Buderus goal has since been ammended looking at this: www.engagesuperleague.co.uk/stat ... eason=2012 Mistaking Peacock for Kirke - perhaps but Burrow for Kirke ..... really ..... come on.'" Kirkes 40/20 was for 40 drives in 20 games

Wrong way round. 40 games and 20 drives. I checked with Opta.

I just saw that RU refs actually do wear those! You can track their bat$h1t decision all over the pitch electronically (although my reffing is always fair and correct).

What a miserable set of so called supporters we have - Ian Kirke has got how many Grand Final Winners rings ?

He won't be a high earner and is no where near as bad as made out on here.

The coaches make the decisions to play him (the same coaches who have won four out of five Grand Finals). Go figure.

Get off his back

Good first post this. I'm really getting pretty bored with the Kirke-kicking tendency that seems to pervade every thread on this board. Kirke does a job. It may not be spectacular but it's clearly the job that he's been asked to do and he's clearly done it to the satisfaction of at least three championship-winning coaches.

I've done jobbies that lasted longer than Kirke.

Kirkes performances get the same scrutiny the rest of the squad get.
Read through ANY match/squad threads and IF he's not performed as fans would expect from a 6"+ 17st+ Prop then it gets commented on just as Burrow etc did last year when they were "off form" or not producing.
Whether others get bored or not offer something to the debate that gives a positive spin on his efforts indeed he did ok v Widnes and it was mentioned.
With the size of the squad and the emergance of some potential within the acadamy players will ALWAYS be disussed whether + or - you just have to look back to Seniors last active 18mths.
It's not "bashing ,kicking or witch hunting" just debate and opinions on players within the team/squad we follow.

Webb is so Hit and miss. Brilliant but so deadly when you need him to be brilliant.

So what do [iyou[/i consider he offers that puts him in your first 17 pecking order ?

Is it his competitiveness, controlled aggression, tackle busting ability, rugby intellect, punishing tackling, or high industrious workmanlike performances that impresses you most ?

I actually do think it'd a bit of a witchhunt. gareth raised some valid points about his performance levels last season and I think we debated it at length several times.

this season loads have jumped on the bandwagon to have a go at the easy target but without any actual insight or analysis of why he may be being selected. he's played a couple of gameswhen others have been missing but has probably attracted more mentions on this board than most of the team. No wonder we get called whinos.
he's a cheap option who does a job. why don't proper get that. if he was a better player he wouldn't fit into the squad.

he isn't in the 1st 17 pecking order this season or do you not actually pay attention to the squads on a match day.

Some people seem more blinkered than others......some are more capable of forming an opinion on what they see for themselves rather than accepting the mantra and dogma of others.

Others can speak for themselves but I cannot see what the guy offers above the likes of Singleton, Moore, Amor, Ambler etc etc. Can you ??



He certainly makes it into the first 17 above the afore mentioned....or would you disagree ?