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| Why are people saying it's only been 3 games? He's been here since 2019. For every season we don't get our long-term manager, the rebuild and transition just gets delayed another year. There's only so long that excuse can continue to be used before it's clear we're not in a transition, we're just being terribly managed from the coach to the directors.
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| Quote: tomlufc "Why are people saying it's only been 3 games? He's been here since 2019. For every season we don't get our long-term manager, the rebuild and transition just gets delayed another year. There's only so long that excuse can continue to be used before it's clear we're not in a transition, we're just being terribly managed from the coach to the directors.'"
A d Since 2019 we’ve gone from being knocked out of the CC by a championship side to winning the CC and getting in the Semi Finals of SL.
The fact is losing the first 3 games of this season has prompted this thread. Sacking him now without a proper replacement could make things worse
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| Quote: christopher "A d Since 2019 we’ve gone from being knocked out of the CC by a championship side to winning the CC and getting in the Semi Finals of SL.
The fact is losing the first 3 games of this season has prompted this thread. Sacking him now without a proper replacement could make things worse'"
Yet it feels like we're miles away from genuinely competing. I'm not entirely sure what style of play we're attempting and working towards under Agar. Are we incrementally improving with the end goal of playing successful, entertaining rugby or are we constantly taking one step forward and then one back in a very mediocre fashion?
I would rather plod along with a coach who has an end goal with how he wants to play, then plod along with Agar going nowhere quickly. I think it's been stated a few times that Agar isn't our long-term guy, and at times hasn't he mentioned not even wanting the job? If so why is he being given so much time and say when it comes to building the team? It feels like we're playing for time in March.
Are there absolutely no coaches available, we can attract?
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| Quote: tomlufc "Yet it feels like we're miles away from genuinely competing. I'm not entirely sure what style of play we're attempting and working towards under Agar. Are we incrementally improving with the end goal of playing successful, entertaining rugby or are we constantly taking one step forward and then one back in a very mediocre fashion?
I would rather plod along with a coach who has an end goal with how he wants to play, then plod along with Agar going nowhere quickly. I think it's been stated a few times that Agar isn't our long-term guy, and at times hasn't he mentioned not even wanting the job? If so why is he being given so much time and say when it comes to building the team? It feels like we're playing for time in March.
Are there absolutely no coaches available, we can attract?'"
A lot of questions which none of us can answer
Id suggest he’s been given time because of the work he’s done in the last two years and is well thought of by both the management and players.
We simply don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes regards head coach but I very much suspect this will be Agars ladt year in that role, people are saying hed make an excellent DOR (i agree) so why mess that up by sacking him now, unless there is unrest it will do more harm than good.
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| The last point's valid, definitely can't sack him unceremoniously if he's going to be DoR. If the plan is for him to go at the end of the year we need to avoid a Lam at Wigan situation, where the players gave up well before the end of the season and Lam couldn't motivate them because he was on his way. One thing I desperately hope we do is go out of our comfort zone and bring in a genuine outsider. No more jobs for the boys nonsense. Go for the best we can get. Tradition and history (and whatever 'DNA' is with a team) are great but don't win trophies.
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| Quote: Loiner at large "I actually like Agar and think he would be great in the director of rugby role. I am really struggling to see what impact Sean Long is having. Our attacking platform lacks structure and basic skills which is his job to lead improvement. Interestingly Leixester Tigers are 16 points clear in the posh boys comp with there new defenxe coach!'"
Looks like the 'x' is too close to the 'c' on your keyboard mate.
You might wanna get that xhecked out.....
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| He may be good as an assistant coach. Hard to tell. He's probably quite good at the squad-building side of things - it seemed that Leeds players liked him. Just hard to see what he'd have to offer on the actual coaching side compared to a young up and comer....
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| Alright for some getting to live in Auckland!
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| At least he won't be back as DOR then
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| Amen. Really nice bloke, hopeless coach which is now all the more transparent given what we are doing with largely the same players.
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| Quote: rugbyleague88 "Alright for some getting to live in Auckland!'"
Funnily enough I've not heard great things about living in NZ. Sure he'll make the most of it though
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| I think he'll be a good fit for the Warrors DNA.
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| If by Warriors DNA you mean soft defence and crumbling at the first sign of pressure then you may be right...
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| Quote: batleyrhino "Amen. Really nice bloke, hopeless coach which is now all the more transparent given what we are doing with largely the same players.'"
You have to give Rohan Smith some credit for that after so many other coaches failed to get them to do much.
Agar did well to win a CC though.
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