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Quote: Juan Cornetto "Sutcliffe didn't look sharp enough before he was injured, neither did Watkins or Hardaker who dies with the ball too much. The forwards didn't dominate and the whole side struggled with Warrington's quick defence who came with a distinct tactic to slow down our PTB.

Having said that we should still have won had we kicked our goals which is a source of concern that I have previously expressed and unfortunately this weakness I believe will be repeated. Hardaker does not look a natural kicker and will need to improve dramatically to be more than just a 50%er.

On the plus side Lilley played very well and was involved in most of our best bits and IMO he should currently be a starter at halfback. I like the way he is prepared to take responsibility and I think he is also our best kicker and should be taking the goal kicks when he is on the field. Moon was once again our best Centre and I thought Ferres worked hard and Galloway and Singleton went well too.'"


Agree with most of this. Thought wire defensive was extremely committed and when they gave any penalties we were not composed enough to stretch them. 2 points of concern to me. 1) last tackle kick options were pretty poor and 2) hardaker looks to me like he is kicking hard at the ball rather than through it. agree he does not look like a natural goal kicker.

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Quote: ratticusfinch "We got absolutely dry bummed on the penalty count, played poorly with ball in hand and yet still won. You will struggle this year. I think you all know your wonderful decade of fun is over. Sir kev or jp in that side and you win'"


You did the double over us last year in league and yet ....agree with sir kev kicking we would have won but it's a long year.

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Quote: William Eve "Thought the million pound pitch looked very impressive.'"


Yes it did look a bit threadbare. Are there plans to sow some plastic seeds? But at least it's in better nick than the training one which wasn't glued down well enough or has shrunk or something.

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Quote: Juan Cornetto "Yes it did look a bit threadbare. Are there plans to sow some plastic seeds? But at least it's in better nick than the training one which wasn't glued down well enough or has shrunk or something.'"

It was under about 6 ft of filthy River Aire for a couple of days last month, wasn't it? I'm guessing the actual grass pitches down there were also affected. They've still got that pitch at Meanwood/Weetwood which hasn't been used for a couple of decades. The posts (now rusty and laid flat on the deck) are still there. Needs plenty of weeding done though along with removal of dog mess icon_smile.gif

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Sinfield brings more than just his conversions, huge loss, looked rudderless tonight, like the season we lost Briers.

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If McGuire is going to be out for a period I fear that his true worth will be so evident that even those who stubbornly remain oblivious will have to acknowledge it.

Oh, and to use a tired - yet valid - cliche, we (particularly the forwards) missed a proper hooker.

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The biggest disappointment for me was we were repeatedly camped out on their line but didn't seem to have any idea how to get over. It was like we were playing thirteen stand offs, the ball was just thrown from one side of the pitch to the other with no line runners to put any doubt in Warrington's mind.

Singleton and Garbutt brought some much needed aggression and Lilley shone as both a hooker and a half. Moon also played well and was my MOTM.

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Quote: Gotcha "Poor is the answer, as was his all round play. But we didn't win because of poor half back play in the first half of the game. All that play and no danger. Lilley is the only half we have who can dictate play and move the team around, and we should have faith in him for an extended run.'"


I agree re: Lilley he looks the real deal - I know Sutcliffe was injured and he hasn't played at this level for a long time but he looked well out of his depth and his inability to catch a sublime offload was costly.

I disagree re: the first half - the problem for me was we didn't capitalise on the pressure we built in the first half in the second. The game was lost when Burrow decided to put the brakes on when he saw Currie coming towards him and two shocking attempts at kicks from Hardaker. If he is the best kicker in the club we really have some issues.

On a positive I thought Ablett was much improved on last season, Ferres fitted in well, Galloway looked like he had come to play and Child could have been a whole lot worse.

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Leeds were comfortable last night, dominated possession and field position.

Leeds weren't panicking when 6-0 down. The first 20 minutes of 2nd half they upped the speed on play all round, a lot of credit has to go to Lilley for that. for me where they slipped up was not finding the killer punch when they were leading 10-6. if we could have pushed 2 scores clear that would have been enough.

1st game in, always expected a tough arm wrestle. Leeds were edged out, plenty more to come. nothing to worry about from a 1st hit out.

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I thought Leeds competed well in a game in which the pressure was arguably more on Warrington and their big-money signings after yet another season of massive underachievement. No complaints from me. It is going to take time for some individuals to feel their way into new roles - particularly relating to leadership on-field and kicking responsibilities. On top of that there have been a lot of personnel changes, and it will take time for the team to gel - the same can be said of Warrington who were far from perfect despite picking up the two points (had Leeds been in their position I'm sure someone would have reminded us that we cannot always rely on a kicker having an off-day).

I don't think a lot was on for either side, and it is far too early to criticise our halves for a lack of creativity - Sutcliffe's only just come back from a long spell injured, and McGuire wasn't on long enough. For me, the lack of on-field leadership was the biggest deficiency, and that will be sorted out with time. Looking forward to seeing Falloon, not to mention Stevie Ward coming back. Someone like JJB would have made a big difference in the leadership side of things.

Nice for the team to have things to work on at this stage of the season - no danger of them falling for the hype of the all-conquering treble champions this way.

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couldn't watch the game last night, just watched it back now and thought the performance was pretty good on the whole.I think we deserved the result but Warrington were very good in defence and took their chances when they came, the few which we gave them.Expect them to go much better this year.Thought Ferres fitted in nicely for us, Galloway got through some nice work and lilley did well when he came on.Can't really find much to criticise to be honest, just couldn't get the right side of a tight game but signs are good imo.

disappointing for Mcguire hopefully not too serious.

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That performance would generally win you 95% of your games, you completely dominated possession, just need 2 things, a better kicker and a true leader.

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Quote: Wire Yed "That performance would generally win you 95% of your games, you completely dominated possession, just need 2 things, a better kicker and a true leader.'"

By the same token I can see the Wolves playing much better (dropping less ball in your 20 metre area for instance) but still losing against a side with better/slicker attacking ideas & execution.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "I agree rehis inability to catch a sublime offload was costly.'"

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Quote: Sal Paradise "I agree re

The brakes that Burrow put on were quite shocking really. Normally he is so fearless and backs his pace...and he would def have made it to the line if he had backed his pace. (and won us the game). Hardaker needs to put in more practice...and be made to step aside if there is a better goalkicker on the field (Lilley).
The more I see of Lilley the more I like what I see: the kid seems to have it all with the maturity well beyond his tender years to boss players around. For me he deserves a starting slot in the halves against Widnes alongside McGuire (if fit of course). Sutcliffe if not. ... Burrow on the bench assuming Faloon is fit.

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