We can cope without a winger, not sure we can cope without a prop.

Singleton,Cuthbertson, Mullally atm ? Need at 4 and a back up at least.
Mullally / Oledski (sp) are ok for back up and Singleton & Cuthbertson aren't good enough to carry the pack.

I might try Oledski + Singleton in combination with ANother (Garbutt replacement) + Crosby. I can see Cuthbo and Peteru playing front row even though I suspect they're better in the BR. Have high hopes of young Holroyd, but wil give maybe a handful of sub appearances only in 2019 would think. Back row of a fit Ward, Ferres and Merrin looks good to me, with Smith, JJB, Ablett in reserve. Bottom, line, we need at least 2 metre making impact props in this squad, and I think we only have 1 in Oledzki, who is still too young to carry all the responsbility.

Ablett, JJB and L Briscoe signed 2,1 & 3 years respectively.

Im ok with all of those, Ablett still has a lot to offer if he can stay injury free, he’s only 32 but this shoukd be his last deal, JJB offers far more than just on field ability and L Briscoe is still fairly young and will do a job

I forgot about Crosby.

If we could get Seb from hudds I think we would be in too 4 if we get them fit.

Is Seb a quota player (I guess so) otherwsie would be nice to sign Seb and still bring in 1 more overseas player, feel we must have someone lined uo to let Garbutt go

Yeah I think we’re bang up the the cap now so it’s 3 or 4 out and 1 in time.

Might be easier said than done

Seb is a overseas and non fed trained player, which we have one spot now

Now that Brian Mac has finally been announced as Toronto's coach it will be interesting to see if he comes in for any of his ex players?
I was told that Wakey were interested in Golding,i'd guess that Toronto wouldn't mind him too as he offered him a long term contract at the Rhinos.

Perhaps players like Handley,Mullally,Walters and Sutcliffe would be of interest to them also?

If Golding goes, I'd definitely keep Sutcliffe, we need cover at full back.

IMO neither Golding or Sutty will be first choice starting 17 next season barring any injuries.

Perhaps that will be a deciding factor for these players should another club take a fancy to their services for 2019 and beyond

IMO the club would gladly sacrifice any of Golding,Sutty,Mullally,Walters,Ormandroyd or Handley in order to bring a top class replacement in that would be a starting 17 each week like Ikahihfo for example

Maybe, but Sutcliffe certainly shouldn’t be it.

I guess the chap from rugby union, McLelland, can also cover fullback as can Lolohea - you just cannot carry 'old' reserve players with a salary cap and no reserve team anymore - promising juniors have 2 or 3 years to get a starting place and then need to move on and let the next batch of youngsters have a go - for me any of the people on Biffs Back list can go if we do not see them having a starting spot

Congratulations to Ash Golding on being part of the Jamaica team team that has just qualified for the world cup.

He got man of the match as well I read......

I actually liked him at hooker last year. With some preseason training in the position he'd be good on the bench. Could cover 9 and across the backs

I'd much rather we kept Golding + got rid of Sutcliffe

I have nothing against Golding but if he covers hooking role next season when we have young Corey Johnson there I will go mental. Like seriously mental.

Agree.

Sutty has had his chance(s) for me.

I disagree, theres a good player in there IMO, Sutcliffe was arguably also respondible for us winning 2 very important games atvthe back end of last season - Widnes away and Salford at home, as I say I think theres a decent player in there lets see what the new coach can do with him

Agreed, dont want to see Goulding anywhere near the hooking role. Parcell, Dwyer and Johnson should be our hooker options.

That's my feeling too. I'm willing to wait and see what he's like in a team with some structure.

Am convinced that Sutcliffe has the potential to be a huge success. Long term i would see him best utilised in the second row. He has the size and frame and has good hands and decent pace (for a forward). We need to persevere with him and back him and am convinced he will come good for us.

I'm not convinced as he hasn't shown me enough to suggest he can lock down a second row spot (although not sure where else I would play him either) and he is unlikely to get a game there next year. However, if this is an option I would try and convince Toronto to take him on loan for a season under the agreement that they play him at second row only - if he succeeds, there should be a few vacancies in the second row the season after next when JJB retires, and 2 or 3 of the others have uncertain futures

Sutty is ok across a number of positions. He did ok at fb but walker is better, he did ok at centre but then couldn't oust Handley and won't get a game there now. He is a good awful stand off. Would he be better at 2nd row? I think he could go ok there.

But if it was between keeping him or Golding which was the original post then I'm afraid I'd prefer Golding who has done nothing wrong other than be at the club at the same time as walker who has all the makings of a top top player.