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| Four wins, maybe even three gets us in I think. While I'd love to see us rise like a Phoenix from the ashes and win the whole thing, for the greater good of the club it probably needs to play out the hard way. London and Hull in the next two matches should be comfortable wins, but we know how those type of fixtures went when Arthur wasn't at the helm. Winning those two games in a professional manner and then nailing performances ( not necessarily wins) against KR and the Pies really sets us up for a productive pre-season and a successful 25.
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| Quote: ArthurClues "Four wins, maybe even three gets us in I think. While I'd love to see us rise like a Phoenix from the ashes and win the whole thing, for the greater good of the club it probably needs to play out the hard way. London and Hull in the next two matches should be comfortable wins, but we know how those type of fixtures went when Arthur wasn't at the helm. Winning those two games in a professional manner and then nailing performances ( not necessarily wins) against KR and the Pies really sets us up for a productive pre-season and a successful 25.'"
Won’t mean a lot for 25, think n some bring changes afoot…
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| Think we will need 30 points to get in the playoffs so 3 wins but then we are still relying on other results dropping our way. With so many permutations anything can happen but think we may just fall short.
As others gave said the Salford loss was the killer we would had been above them now if we won that
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| We could be in the 6 this time next week. Salford (vs HKR), Catalans (vs Wigan) and Leigh (vs Warrington) could all lose next week. Then we would most likely be in the 6 assuming we manage to beat London, and it’s back in our hands again although with a tough last two games.
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27794.gif [b:1zy5cey6]"...To those people that wrote this team off...
to all those that criticised this team...
tonight's for you"
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| Quote: rollin thunder "Think we will need 30 points to get in the playoffs so 3 wins but then we are still relying on other results dropping our way. With so many permutations anything can happen but think we may just fall short.
As others gave said the Salford loss was the killer we would had been above them now if we won that'"
That's how I see it too
We've got 2 very winnable games v London (A) and HFC (H) which would put us on 28 points
then we have 2 tough games v Wigan (A) and HKR (A) when they could both be fighting for either the LLS or a home tie in the play offs.
Plenty of If's and But's but it's out of our hands in reality
The loss to Salford in round 20 was a big blow, but I think that the round 14 defeat to Hull FC away was worse
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| The only good thing about Leigh winning yesterday was it means the actual worst team may be relegated rather than the one that the bully boys of IMG and the RFL decide to relegate based on “fandom” etc. Set of clowns.
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| Quote: leeds owl "The only good thing about Leigh winning yesterday was it means the actual worst team may be relegated rather than the one that the bully boys of IMG and the RFL decide to relegate based on “fandom” etc. Set of clowns.'"
If you mean London, they've known they would be relegated since the season began, as they were given an initial C license by IMG. If you mean Hull they've always known they would be safe, as they were given an A rating. To be honest I wouldn't be at all surprised if Hull finished bottom. London ( who were promoted legitmately) seem to have a lot more fight in them. If you mean Leigh I don't think they were ever in remotely in danger of getting the chop. Not sure who's getting bullied.
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| Quote: ArthurClues "If you mean London, they've known they would be relegated since the season began, as they were given an initial C license by IMG. If you mean Hull they've always known they would be safe, as they were given an A rating. To be honest I wouldn't be at all surprised if Hull finished bottom. London ( who were promoted legitmately) seem to have a lot more fight in them. If you mean Leigh I don't think they were ever in remotely in danger of getting the chop. Not sure who's getting bullied.'"
I think you’ve missed my point. If London finish bottom, they have been the worst performing team. If they finish above Hull they haven’t been the worst team, and therefore it will sting when they go down, even though they knew at the start of the season they were grade C. As for who’s getting bullied, that’s quite obvious. Any of the clubs that are deemed not good enough for Superleague without even being given the chance have been bullied. If the RFL want to cut the roots off clubs like Featherstone, Barrow, Keighley etc who dare to dream that’s up to them, but what is the point of these clubs existing if they are never given a chance to play at the top level ? How are they going to improve their “fandom” when all the local kids want to go and watch the “bigger” clubs that play in Superleague. How are they going to improve their finances when less fans means less income and how are they going to get bigger sponsorship deals when potential sponsors know they’re product is never going to be seen under the lights of Superleague on a Friday night ? Can you seriously say that to be caught in a spiral of diminishing crowds, finances and general desirability as a club because IMG and the RFL say so is not being bullied ?
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| Those clubs have had 30 years to get good enough for SL.
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| Quote: leeds owl "I think you’ve missed my point. If London finish bottom, they have been the worst performing team. If they finish above Hull they haven’t been the worst team, and therefore it will sting when they go down, even though they knew at the start of the season they were grade C. As for who’s getting bullied, that’s quite obvious. Any of the clubs that are deemed not good enough for Superleague without even being given the chance have been bullied. If the RFL want to cut the roots off clubs like Featherstone, Barrow, Keighley etc who dare to dream that’s up to them, but what is the point of these clubs existing if they are never given a chance to play at the top level ? How are they going to improve their “fandom” when all the local kids want to go and watch the “bigger” clubs that play in Superleague. How are they going to improve their finances when less fans means less income and how are they going to get bigger sponsorship deals when potential sponsors know they’re product is never going to be seen under the lights of Superleague on a Friday night ? Can you seriously say that to be caught in a spiral of diminishing crowds, finances and general desirability as a club because IMG and the RFL say so is not being bullied ?'"
See Jack's point.
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| Quote: Jack Burton "Those clubs have had 30 years to get good enough for SL.'"
Depends what you call good enough. It was less than 30 years since the top team in The Championship were deemed “not good enough” and denied entry to the top table. The repercussions for Keighley were disastrous and unfortunately they will never recover to become the club they were back then. If you think that’s fair that’s your opinion. Hardly seemed worth almost destroying a thriving club in a Rugby League town for the sake of Paris St Germaine. Where are they now ? The RFL bangs on about inclusivity and not discriminating but then commits acts of blatant discrimination. I suppose in their case it’s selective discrimination. If you are a black, gay man who supports Leeds or aspires to play for his hometown club in Superleague then no problem. If you are a black, gay man who is born in Featherstone and supports or wants to play for his hometown club in Superleague then prepare for some discrimination coming your way. It won’t be your colour or your sexual preference, it will be the simple reason that you were born in Featherstone, simple as that. Because it’s no bigger than a village, you will be discriminated against. Even though your club gets much bigger crowds than Leeds per capita you will be discriminated against. You will never have a chance of regaining your heady heights of a small village competing against the bigger teams because of all the ridiculous discriminatory rules preventing you from proving what you can do on an actual rugby field. If you think that’s fair we’ll agree to disagree.
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| Quote: leeds owl "Depends what you call good enough. It was less than 30 years since the top team in The Championship were deemed “not good enough” and denied entry to the top table. The repercussions for Keighley were disastrous and unfortunately they will never recover to become the club they were back then. If you think that’s fair that’s your opinion. Hardly seemed worth almost destroying a thriving club in a Rugby League town for the sake of Paris St Germaine. Where are they now ? The RFL bangs on about inclusivity and not discriminating but then commits acts of blatant discrimination. I suppose in their case it’s selective discrimination. If you are a black, gay man who supports Leeds or aspires to play for his hometown club in Superleague then no problem. If you are a black, gay man who is born in Featherstone and supports or wants to play for his hometown club in Superleague then prepare for some discrimination coming your way. It won’t be your colour or your sexual preference, it will be the simple reason that you were born in Featherstone, simple as that. Because it’s no bigger than a village, you will be discriminated against. Even though your club gets much bigger crowds than Leeds per capita you will be discriminated against. You will never have a chance of regaining your heady heights of a small village competing against the bigger teams because of all the ridiculous discriminatory rules preventing you from proving what you can do on an actual rugby field. If you think that’s fair we’ll agree to disagree.'"
You should run for parliament, Owl. In response (whilst acknowledging historical controversies) I'd simply say that over the last 5 years Fev have spent a lot of money trying to get into SL and bottled it on every occasion. They can't say they haven't had their chances. Moreover, when as now seems likely, the NRL take a significant and possibly sport saving stake in SL, I can't see them being keen to invest in already congested post codes. Whether we like it or not, that was the games history ( I was at Wembley in 83 when Fev pipped Hull) but not it's future.
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| The run in -
4 Salford Red Devils (+18 - 2icon_cool.gif
Hull KR A, Catalan H, Hull FC A, Wigan A
5 St Helens (+184 - 26)
Huddersfield A, Warrington A, Castleford H, Leigh H
6 Catalan Dragons (+46 - 26)
Wigan H, Salford A, London H, Hull FC A
7 Leigh Leopards (+160 - 25)
Warrington H, Castleford A, Hull KR H, St Helens A
8 Leeds Rhinos (+27 - 24)
London A, Hull FC H, Wigan A, Hull KR A
Nothing is certain -
Salford have to take one win - but do have a very hard run in with Hull KR, Catalan and Wigan.
Leigh have arguably the hardest having to play Warrington, Hull KR and St Helens.
Hull KR have a huge say in the PO race having to play 3 of the 5 teams involved
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| What if youre from Featherstone, black, gay, and made out of straw?
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| Quote: ArthurClues "You should run for parliament, Owl. In response (whilst acknowledging historical controversies) I'd simply say that over the last 5 years Fev have spent a lot of money trying to get into SL and bottled it on every occasion. They can't say they haven't had their chances. Moreover, when as now seems likely, the NRL take a significant and possibly sport saving stake in SL, I can't see them being keen to invest in already congested post codes. Whether we like it or not, that was the games history ( I was at Wembley in 83 when Fev pipped Hull) but not it's future.'"
Parliamentarian, my wife says I’m full of hot air so maybe that’s a good shout Arthur. I was using Fev as an easy example, a rugby league stronghold with 20% of the population regularly turning out for their local team. Leeds would need to average 120,000 every game to match that sort of commitment. It could have been anywhere from Barrow to Oldham in fairness. As for Fev’s past failures, the same could have been said about Leeds efforts to win The Challenge Cup post 1999 , but we let them bang away for another 15 years.They didn’t take our dream away. Didn’t know about the potential NRL investment, but if they think any kind of investment in the “already congested postcodes” would be wasted I do wonder where they think the money is best invested. Paris St Germain or Toronto maybe, because that went great last time. Another couple of massive away followings. The Catalans away following consisted of 5 blokes from Barrow on Friday night. I would much rather have 500 to 1000 from one of the smaller clubs creating some atmosphere for everybody if they earn the right on the playing field to be in Superleague.
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