Keep harking back to it but the Salford defeat really did end our hopes.

We aren't a million miles off. Particularly with Farmer Arthur now signed up. 2025 will be a much better season

Four wins, maybe even three gets us in I think. While I'd love to see us rise like a Phoenix from the ashes and win the whole thing, for the greater good of the club it probably needs to play out the hard way. London and Hull in the next two matches should be comfortable wins, but we know how those type of fixtures went when Arthur wasn't at the helm. Winning those two games in a professional manner and then nailing performances ( not necessarily wins) against KR and the Pies really sets us up for a productive pre-season and a successful 25.

Won’t mean a lot for 25, think n some bring changes afoot…

Think we will need 30 points to get in the playoffs so 3 wins but then we are still relying on other results dropping our way. With so many permutations anything can happen but think we may just fall short.
As others gave said the Salford loss was the killer we would had been above them now if we won that

We could be in the 6 this time next week. Salford (vs HKR), Catalans (vs Wigan) and Leigh (vs Warrington) could all lose next week. Then we would most likely be in the 6 assuming we manage to beat London, and it’s back in our hands again although with a tough last two games.

That's how I see it too
We've got 2 very winnable games v London (A) and HFC (H) which would put us on 28 points
then we have 2 tough games v Wigan (A) and HKR (A) when they could both be fighting for either the LLS or a home tie in the play offs.

Plenty of If's and But's but it's out of our hands in reality
The loss to Salford in round 20 was a big blow, but I think that the round 14 defeat to Hull FC away was worse

The only good thing about Leigh winning yesterday was it means the actual worst team may be relegated rather than the one that the bully boys of IMG and the RFL decide to relegate based on “fandom” etc. Set of clowns.

If you mean London, they've known they would be relegated since the season began, as they were given an initial C license by IMG. If you mean Hull they've always known they would be safe, as they were given an A rating. To be honest I wouldn't be at all surprised if Hull finished bottom. London ( who were promoted legitmately) seem to have a lot more fight in them. If you mean Leigh I don't think they were ever in remotely in danger of getting the chop. Not sure who's getting bullied.

I think you’ve missed my point. If London finish bottom, they have been the worst performing team. If they finish above Hull they haven’t been the worst team, and therefore it will sting when they go down, even though they knew at the start of the season they were grade C. As for who’s getting bullied, that’s quite obvious. Any of the clubs that are deemed not good enough for Superleague without even being given the chance have been bullied. If the RFL want to cut the roots off clubs like Featherstone, Barrow, Keighley etc who dare to dream that’s up to them, but what is the point of these clubs existing if they are never given a chance to play at the top level ? How are they going to improve their “fandom” when all the local kids want to go and watch the “bigger” clubs that play in Superleague. How are they going to improve their finances when less fans means less income and how are they going to get bigger sponsorship deals when potential sponsors know they’re product is never going to be seen under the lights of Superleague on a Friday night ? Can you seriously say that to be caught in a spiral of diminishing crowds, finances and general desirability as a club because IMG and the RFL say so is not being bullied ?

Those clubs have had 30 years to get good enough for SL.

See Jack's point.

Depends what you call good enough. It was less than 30 years since the top team in The Championship were deemed “not good enough” and denied entry to the top table. The repercussions for Keighley were disastrous and unfortunately they will never recover to become the club they were back then. If you think that’s fair that’s your opinion. Hardly seemed worth almost destroying a thriving club in a Rugby League town for the sake of Paris St Germaine. Where are they now ? The RFL bangs on about inclusivity and not discriminating but then commits acts of blatant discrimination. I suppose in their case it’s selective discrimination. If you are a black, gay man who supports Leeds or aspires to play for his hometown club in Superleague then no problem. If you are a black, gay man who is born in Featherstone and supports or wants to play for his hometown club in Superleague then prepare for some discrimination coming your way. It won’t be your colour or your sexual preference, it will be the simple reason that you were born in Featherstone, simple as that. Because it’s no bigger than a village, you will be discriminated against. Even though your club gets much bigger crowds than Leeds per capita you will be discriminated against. You will never have a chance of regaining your heady heights of a small village competing against the bigger teams because of all the ridiculous discriminatory rules preventing you from proving what you can do on an actual rugby field. If you think that’s fair we’ll agree to disagree.