We have lost the collision all night Wigan have marched us down the field easily, you can't win games against good teams when they do that to you.the effort has been there though.

I'm not sure how anyone could highlight leeds attacking options as the main concern. I'll say it again, it's the errors and penalty count, you can forget anything else until they get that sorted from the start of a game.

I agree Seth, we were behind the 8 ball after the silly penalties and lost ball first half. its a shame cos i think wigan were there for the taking tonight

Another shocking display. Silly penalties, out muscled in the forwards. No halfbacks in our team. We are lucky Wigan were pretty poor in attack in the first half of it would be even more embarrassing. Can't draw many positives from this

The errors are because of the attacking options, and we're often on the back foot because our kicking game is so bad - case in point Burrow coming back on the field then punting it straight at the full back to allow a 60 yard run into broken field and a try.

Positives: Falloon has a good, crisp range of passing. Achurch had a pretty good game (we didn't fall apart until after he went off)

Negatives: Lots

No, the many of the errors were just cold dropping the ball nothing to do with attacking options and the penalties on the back of that and you get this performance. Attacking plays certainly wouldn't be my main priority this week if I was BM.

Things must be bad if Seth is on criticising

This is spot on. We were in the game and only six down at a time when we had plenty ball. We do not look capable of attacking, and we haven't much at all yet this season.

Penalties and errors don't help, but they are not the reason for the poor attack. Sutcliffe especially is absolutely appalling, nothing more than a passenger as a player.

Pretty much the norm for a young half behind a well beaten pack.

Another positive hopefully next years MM we should get an easier game rather than extra game against Wigan

If your not up to it, your not up to. Last night Widnes were getting well beaten first 20 minutes, but their halfs looked superb regardless. Our pack was not well beaten for the whole 80, but Sutcliffe was very poor for the whole 80.