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| It's funny how after the Castleford game quite a few were saying they couldn't see us winning any of the next 4 games, but now those first two were easy predictable wins.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"It's funny how after the Castleford game quite a few were saying they couldn't see us winning any of the next 4 games, but now those first two were easy predictable wins.'"
I personally expected more form Catalans after they had an undefeated start but should really have known better going off their usual sub standard away performances, you can't even argue that they were anything more than poor last week. As for Wakey, that game at home is as generally as easy as you want to make it. I did think the next three of Hudds, Warrington and Wigan were the real tests so we will see after them.Like i say, it's clear the players are playing for the coach off the last 2 games i don't think you can take a whole heap more from them though TBH as to where we are seriously at.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"It's funny how after the Castleford game quite a few were saying they couldn't see us winning any of the next 4 games, but now those first two were easy predictable wins.'"
Like who said that Leeds would not win any of the next 4 fixtures and is now saying the last two games were easy?
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| Quote ="Seth"Whatever your opinion (and i too thought it was time to go after the cas game), you cant deny that the players clearly wanted to play for the coach and eachother in the last couple of weeks.'"
I agree but it strikes me as odd at the same time.
Where has this level of performance been for the last 14 months? Did it really take GH threatening the sack for the players to stand up? If so, what does that say about the players?
Don't get me wrong i pleased we seem to have woken from our slumber but i cant help but feel it is just papering over the cracks.
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| Thats because it is.
We need to seriously buck our ideas up with regard to transfers, academy progression and off field coaching as we have fallen behind on all of them.
Nothing that cant be fixed, but one that is going to need some quite painful decisions to be followed through.
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| Quote ="Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino"Thats because it is.
We need to seriously buck our ideas up with regard to transfers, academy progression and off field coaching as we have fallen behind on all of them.
Nothing that cant be fixed, but one that is going to need some quite painful decisions to be followed through.'"
100% spot on.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Like who said that Leeds would not win any of the next 4 fixtures and is now saying the last two games were easy?'"
That sounds like something you'd say TBH, probably why you've pounced on it 
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Like who said that Leeds would not win any of the next 4 fixtures and is now saying the last two games were easy?'"
Skip back to the many threads started after the Castleford defeat and you'll see, even the prediction competition for the other week had a lot more people tipping a Catalans win rather than Leeds.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Skip back to the many threads started after the Castleford defeat and you'll see, even the prediction competition for the other week had a lot more people tipping a Catalans win rather than Leeds.'"
That's not the same as saying people were suggesting Leeds would lose the next 4 fixtures 2 of which were against 2 of the weakest sides in SL.
Leeds have only played 2 serious sides - they have had a very soft start to the season - and they have lost them both the next test will be Wigan - lets hope it is better than the game at the Jungle 
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| Quote ="loiner81"Read it again slowly Sal, it was a joke. Crikey
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Everything is a joke when you get put on the spot  !!
Should we call you a liar?
Run along you must have school in the morning
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"That's not the same as saying people were suggesting Leeds would lose the next 4 fixtures 2 of which were against 2 of the weakest sides in SL.
Leeds have only played 2 serious sides - they have had a very soft start to the season - and they have lost them both the next test will be Wigan - lets hope it is better than the game at the Jungle
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Like I said look back at all the post mortem threads after the Castleford game, already pointed out more people tipped us to lose the Catalans game.
Can call our games easy but we beat Salford who have beaten Castleford today and people can go on about Catalans away form but their previous away game before us they actually beat Hull away, one of the teams we have to test ourselves against apparently.
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| Anyway, Huddersfield away next. Considering they picked up a great point today at Wigan and always seem to be up for us at home in the regular rounds should be a bit more of a guide to where we are at the minute. I can't see there being more than a score in it either way.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Like I said look back at all the post mortem threads after the Castleford game, already pointed out more people tipped us to lose the Catalans game.
Can call our games easy but we beat Salford who have beaten Castleford today and people can go on about Catalans away form but their previous away game before us they actually beat Hull away, one of the teams we have to test ourselves against apparently.'"
Losing to Catalans is not what you said and you know it so prove your point or stop digging
Leeds have played Leigh, Salford, Wakefield and Huddersfield next week all contenders for the bottom 4 I would say that is a pretty soft start to the season
How many of those did you predict would be in the bottom 4?
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| Next week is a toughie for sure,I would take a win of any sort as it will put a bit of day light between the sides
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Losing to Catalans is not what you said and you know it so prove your point or stop digging'"
It's proves my point exactly, more people were writing us off for that game than back us to win. Like I said go back to those post Castleford threads and GH's 4 game 'deadline' and plenty didn't fancy our chances in those 4 games. People are still questioning are chances in the next two.
Quote ="Sal Paradise"Leeds have played Leigh, Salford, Wakefield and Huddersfield next week all contenders for the bottom 4 I would say that is a pretty soft start to the season
How many of those did you predict would be in the bottom 4?'"
At the start of the season I'd say quite a few of them would be in the bottom 4, but things change just like facing Warrington hasn't been the same challenge for teams that you would've thought. We're the only team to have won at Leigh, Salford are doing ok and have beat Castleford and Warrington.
Wigan have played Leigh (at home) Salford, Widnes, Huddersfield (which they drew) and a massively out of form Warrington. Can we dismiss Wigan until they have tougher challenges? Haven't seen anybody do it.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Everything is a joke when you get put on the spot
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OK Sal, you got me. I was being deadly serious.
That's why I said "it sounds like something you'd say" and not "you said that"
It's also why I added the 2 laughing smileys at the end of the post. Just to reinforce how serious I was being...

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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"Anyway, Huddersfield away next. Considering they picked up a great point today at Wigan and always seem to be up for us at home in the regular rounds should be a bit more of a guide to where we are at the minute. I can't see there being more than a score in it either way.'"
Wigan were well off it today apparently and still could've won.
I'll wait for the squads to be announced before making predictions but if we're unchanged or even better we have more players back then it should be a fairly comfortable win.
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| Quote ="loiner81"Wigan were well off it today apparently and still could've won.
I'll wait for the squads to be announced before making predictions but if we're unchanged or even better we have more players back then it should be a fairly comfortable win.'"
Wigan lost Liam Farrell before the game and O'Loughlin early doors today both with calf injuries so could be interesting how they go the next few weeks if they don't get them guys back with Hull on Friday and then us at Headingley and Cas the following week, could be some more dropped points coming up for them. I know they cope better than others with injuries but those two guys in particular could be a couple of injuries too many even for Wigan.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Wigan lost Liam Farrell before the game and O'Loughlin early doors today both with calf injuries so could be interesting how they go the next few weeks if they don't get them guys back with Hull on Friday and then us at Headingley and Cas the following week, could be some more dropped points coming up for them. I know they cope better than others with injuries but those two guys in particular could be a couple of injuries too many even for Wigan.'"
That'll go some way to explaining why Hudds did so well yesterday then.
I'm shocked at O'Loughlin getting injured though, it's not like him at all.
If those two are missing at Headingley then I can see us winning quite easily.
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| Quote ="loiner81"That'll go some way to explaining why Hudds did so well yesterday then.
I'm shocked at O'Loughlin getting injured though, it's not like him at all.
If those two are missing at Headingley then I can see us winning quite easily.'"
not sure too bothered about them missing todd flanders, but farrell is a blow, very underrated often overshadowed by bateman but farrell in my opinion is more important to them, and always plays well against us.
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| Quote ="loiner81"That'll go some way to explaining why Hudds did so well yesterday then.
I'm shocked at O'Loughlin getting injured though, it's not like him at all.
If those two are missing at Headingley then I can see us winning quite easily.'"
Not sure yet if they'll miss the Leeds game but sounds like they miss Hull this week. Some talk on the Wigan board after their game yesterday about how tired the team looked right from the start of the match even though they've had a 9 day gap between games. Wonder if it's the start of a tired spell from getting up for the WCC like what happened to ourselves a number of times when we appeared in that game. If so it's really bad timing for them with Hull, us and Cas their next 3 games.
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