Chortle.

Oh he does, you’ll find that out tomorrow…

You were doing ok up to these last couple of comments.
Why does the incident have to happen against Leeds?
It is affecting Leeds as one of your best players has got away with a cock up from the MRP.
Had he been banned it would have helped us hence why many Leeds fans are up in arms over it.
To say we have a loser mentality is something Saints clearly had in what was it 5 grand finals?
You have a great team and some great fans but gloating eventually comes to an end even to the best of us.

You’re misunderstanding me. The loser mentality is crying out for one of the oppositions best players to be banned. To want/feel like you need to benefit from an incident that never effected you and are angry and feel “robbed” that it’s not. You’re not hard done to because a player from the opposition is actually playing. That’s the loser mentality. You should want and be confident in giving us a game with or without knowles.

The mentality isn’t anything to do with your club or either our team’s actual level of success. I’ve great respect and a healthy dose of fear of your club. I just think this whole thing is really sad, but then I’ve thought that about RL fans for years when you watch a great game and hop online and 95% of comments are about the refs and “cheats”. It’s so boring

Nobody is justifying it - just pointing out that Leeds fans are acting like toddlers by refusing to accept there was nothing wrong with appealing an incorrect charge and banging on about refunds, corruption and disgraceful world ending scenes for someone who held a bloke’s wrist to slow a PTB.

At least you’ve moved on from Knowles to be worried about Welsby now. Might I suggest Woolf next?

Enjoy the match.

Doubt if this was week 1 it would have been talked about anywhere near as much. For what it's worth watching live it was a poor challenge. For me yellow card and nothing more. However, compared to some of the crap bans we've seen this season to come away with nothing is unacceptable. The issue for me isn't Knowles playing or not it's the consistency of the panel. The fact more people are talking about this than the actual game is worrying. Best thing to happen would be the rfl binning the match review panel end of season and coming up with something new. Players know the risks when they cross the white wash. Only ban someone for something really bad.

Hardaker
Briscoe
Martin
Sutcliffe
Handley/Tindall

Austin
Myler

Oledzki
O’Connor
Prior
Bentley
Tetevano
Smith

Leeming
Thompson
Donaldson
Walters

Not all Leeds fans.

But if we take either clubs bias out of it what it has highlighted is how incompetent the RFL are and the process isn’t correct.

Bearing in mind the second appeal judiciary didn’t even review the actual incident which led to a ban, the appeal wasn’t about that, the appeal was about the wording that the first appeal judiciary review used in their summary.

How then can the second appeal judiciary over rule the original MRP’s verdict without reviewing the actual incident on which the MRP gave the decision on.

Knowles got off because of a technicality not because the third panel thought he wasn’t guilty, that’s an unfit process.

Let’s go Rhinos, GF day. The world is against us, but we don’t care. Perfect motivation!

If we keep myler at fb and Smith in the halves, Martin can stay in the pack and Tetevano can go interchange prop where we're going to need him v saints. Myler can still jump in at first receiver and defend at fb. I'll be surprised if Rohan goes with him in the halves.

Ive got a feeling Dwyer might be on the bench… if so

Myler
Briscoe
Hardaker
Sutcliffe
Handley/tindall
Sezer
Leeming
Oledski
Oconner
Tetevano
Bentley
Martin
Smith

Dwyer
Thompson
Prior
Donaldson/walters

Myler
Briscoe
Hardaker
Sutcliffe
Handley
Smith
Austin
Oledzki
O'connor
Prior
Bentley
Martin
Tetevano

Walters
Donaldson
Thompson
Leeming

We need forwards tonight, not Dwyer on top of O'connor and Leeming.

Smith's mentioned different options a couple of times. Leeming in the halves and Smith on the bench perhaps? I wouldn't rule out a Dwyer swansong either. Personally undecided on the latter but I won't be complaining if he ducks over for a 78th minute winner. Though I reckon we'll have it in the bag before then.

Rohan also put Smith there last week when sezer went off. And with Smith in the halves you could also put him 3 in from either edge when defending which could be a positive. Think defensive positions will be Rohans biggest consideration.

Agree. I’ve been saying for ages they should really just do it like football where you get suspensions for red cards (they can grade red cards to decide severity if it makes them feel bad and give the job squad something to do) and a 1 game ban for an accumulation of yellow cards. Failing that, you don’t get involved unless some serious act of malice was missed by the official on the day.

Kind of, they didn’t need to review the incident because they were ruling based on the first panel’s own ruling. They basically declared him innocent of the charge but kept the ban

Which is my point, a judiciary that isn’t actually reviewing the incident shouldn’t decide guilt or not.

It should have been a retrial

We all hate Leeds, We all hate Leeds (as the song goes) except for tonight. Hope the Rhinos can pull it off, certainly less of a shock with Saints being without Walmsley. Think Oledski will have to be at his best and the pack generally at their best too. If they are, then you have a great chance tonight. C'mon Leeds, bring it back to Yorkshire.
Forgot to add, hence the edit, I hope the match is not won by a controversial decision and that it proves to be a great game, enjoyed by the RL fraternity, in great spirit too. Safe journey to all Saints and Rhinos fans and may the best team win.
As long as its Leeds.

Game on now.
Pro’s
We are on a roll nothing to lose, playing with desire and confidence, arguably the form side of the competition. They look flaky and certainly beatable.

Cons losing Sezar plus outside backs decimated.

Plus Not beat Saints for 4 years time to reverse that, surely its due and stop them doing 4 in a row.
If we win its 9 Grand final wins to their 8

Line up leaked (allegedly)

Myler
Briscoe
Sutcliffe
Hardaker
Handley
Austin
Leeming
Oledski
O’Connor
Prior
Martin
Bentley
Smith

Subs
Dwyer
Tetavano
Thompson
Donaldson

no way on this earth will there be 3 hookers in the 17.
anyway, time to leave

Briscoe, I am worried to say the least

Pretty much what id go for

Yeh, it's a free hit for us this.
Nothing to lose.

Be interesting to see the selections, particularly how, Myler, Hardaker, Smith and Leeming are used.
I'd go for:

Hardaker
Briscoe
Martin
Sutcliffe
Handley
Austin
Myler
Oledski
O'Connor
Prior
Bentley
Thompson
Smith

Tetevano
Leeming
Walters
Donaldson

Saints look flakey?? Oh and should you win it'll be nine SuperLeague titles each