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| replacing senior is dependant on who we can replace him with. Shenton is no better than Senior and would likely be looking for wages in excess of Senior. Plus Shenton requires a much bigger commitment and is a much bigger risk, a 3/4 year contract for a player yet to really hit the big time is much riskier than a 1 year deal for Keith. If its an either or choice between Keith and a real marquee centre from Aus, then yes, look at letting him go. But whilst its a choice between him and and a more expensive player at a similar level then keep him as long as he wants
as for Ali, yes he is inconsistent throughout the season, but consistently good at the business end. He is the best impact forward in the league, plain and simple, he offers us something no-one else does and he does it at the right time. As a Leeds fan who has seen us spend years watching players fall at the final hurdle, im not upset we have a player who revels in the big games
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| Quote BrisbaneRhino="BrisbaneRhino"Erm Cummins wasn't a bad player for a few years before Senior's arrival. At 17 he looked very good, and continued to do pretty well for quite a while. He never quite became the player he could have been, but that's not too uncommon with Leeds players unfortunately.'"
While not disagreeing with the general gist of what you're saying its also worth noting that Cummins had Craig Innes as his centre from his debut in 1993 and in 1994, 1995 and the first few games of 1996; he also had Brad Godden in 1998 and 1999, immediately prior to Senior's arrival.
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| Quote back to back to back="back to back to back"IMO we should not renew his contract and get someone from the NRL. Same type as wigan with Maguire.
That's not a slight on McClennan I just feel it would be the right time to freshen things up, as this could well end a pretty poor season. It could end a good one, and if it did McClennan would leave a god and we'd have someone new come in which would help us stay one step ahead of the competition.'"
Who from the NRL and why?
If he somehow manages to win the GF this year why would you want to lose a coach with 3 championships from 3 years service?
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| Quote Tony Soprano="Tony Soprano"Who from the NRL and why?
If he somehow manages to win the GF this year why would you want to lose a coach with 3 championships from 3 years service?'"
2 out of 3 could hardly be described as shabby either.
(McGuire has won sweet FA at the moment - so let's not have him as a blueprint for a new coach. Also, is it just me, but does he look like an obnoxious pr**k you want to slap?)
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| Quote Puig-Aubert="Puig-Aubert"While not disagreeing with the general gist of what you're saying its also worth noting that Cummins had Craig Innes as his centre from his debut in 1993 and in 1994, 1995 and the first few games of 1996; he also had Brad Godden in 1998 and 1999, immediately prior to Senior's arrival.'"
Which year was it he started at stand-off, got shifted around to full back and ended up back on the wing? Was that 1997?
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| Quote Tony Soprano="Tony Soprano"Who from the NRL and why?
If he somehow manages to win the GF this year why would you want to lose a coach with 3 championships from 3 years service?'"
This is true and I think I was hasty in my opinion on McClennan's future. I trust Hetherington will make the right decision as his recent record in that respect is pretty damn good.
McClennan has an excellent record at getting teams up for the most important games of the season. When iut's been do or die for the title, we haven't stuttered. Wether he can work his magic again from a lower position in the playoffs we'll have to see.
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| Quote Frosties.="Frosties."Leeds
2. Scott Donald (2010) - Returning home IMO due to resigning of Lee Smith.
4. Keith Senior (2010) - already signed a new deal with us for another season, not annouced as of yet

9. Danny Buderus (2010) - will be returning home IMO replaced in FT squad by McShane.
12. Ali Lauitiiti (2010) - Game breaker and despite his leg worries if fit enough i would give him another season.
14. Matt Diskin (2010) - needs to be retained.
16. Ryan Bailey (2010) - heard links to Castleford once again, if true I would hope that we would look at LMS from Quins to replace him.
24. Luke Ambler (2010) - will be kept hold of, as he is a good quality youngster, just needs to lose the gut.
Simon Worrall (Toulouse Loan) (2010) - will be let go IMO'"
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| Quote digger47="digger47"alot of over reaction on here, at the begginning of the season we were saying we had the stongest squad ever and in fact had two forward packs, injuries have propelled some of the youngsters into the team to soon and has caused a disjointed start. Players being touted to let go when contracts run out would be snapped up by other clubs, who would think we were crazy. As for Bluey give him the chance to turn it round and have the faith still along way to go have booked my seat for Old Trafford'"
Thanks for posting it saved me typing the same opinion, it is a bit sad you have to get this far down a thread for someone to have some faith
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"Which year was it he started at stand-off, got shifted around to full back and ended up back on the wing? Was that 1997?'"
1996 IIRC.
On the question of new contracts, this is how I see it:
Definitely retain: Diskin, Bailey, Lauitiiti, Ambler
Retain if affordable or fit under quota: Donald, Buderus (I always expected both to move on after this season anyway)
Let go: Senior, Worrall
Don't know: Manning (haven't seen enough of him)
On the question of McClennan, I think he should be offered a new deal for another year or two. Change for change's sake might not be a good thing, especially if a new coach wants to bring in his own players that could sow discord in what appears to be a happy and settled squad. It's not like McClennan hasn't been successful - the last thing we would want is for him to go to another SL club (Bradford for example).
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| Quote BrisbaneRhino="BrisbaneRhino"What we desperately need to avoid is having half the team leave/hit terminal decline at the same time. We have a few older players now, but we also have a bunch of players in their late 20s. Just as an example, you do not want to have to replace both Burrow and McGuire at the same time.'"
Agree with the point but not necessarily with your example. Both are fairly atypical in the way they perform their roles and I can foresee difficulties for whoever comes in and is expected to play alongside either of them. As a pair they tend to function well (in general). Split them up and one or both might well struggle.
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"Which year was it he started at stand-off, got shifted around to full back and ended up back on the wing? Was that 1997?'"
Yep, definitely 1996.
He had squad number 1 (IIRC or was that 1997 when Damian Gibson was 5?) and I think the intention was to play him as full back but '96 being '96 that never came to pass. I actually thought it would have proved his best position at least in terms of attacking play.
I think he may have been injured a fair bit that year too.
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| Quote Puig-Aubert="Puig-Aubert"Yep, definitely 1996.
He had squad number 1 (IIRC or was that 1997 when Damian Gibson was 5?) and I think the intention was to play him as full back but '96 being '96 that never came to pass. I actually thought it would have proved his best position at least in terms of attacking play.
I think he may have been injured a fair bit that year too.'"
He was also number 1 in 2002 and maybe 2003 I think
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