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| Given GH's usual impeccable timing of announcing "New deals/players" after a dip in form or poor performance does anyone get the impression that the squad could be in for a "over-haul" given the lack of announcements re-player retention?
Iirc O.O.C are..
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Senior.
Bailey.
Ali.
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Buderus.
And most notably imo our coach Bluey.
I may be wrong but other than Smithy returning the contract announcements are normally more forthcoming than they are at present any thoughts?
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| I should imagine GH has been having a very close look at the composition of our squad, and there may well be some surprise announcements in the not too distant future.
I'd add JJB to your list, although I would hope for at least another season from Ali, and possibly Buderus.
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| Quote: BillyRhino "I should imagine GH has been having a very close look at the composition of our squad, and there may well be some surprise announcements in the not too distant future.
I'd add JJB to your list, although I would hope for at least another season from Ali, and possibly Buderus.'"
Is Jjb O.O.C?
Didn't realise that,in terms of age and long termism(not sure that's a word) i'd be surprised if they retained Buderus and not Disko unless they re-signed both and gave Mcshane a guaranteed year on loan!
Plenty for the power brokers at HQ to contemplate.
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| Quote: rhinoms "Is Jjb O.O.C?'"
In a word - No
Jones-Buchanan secured at Leeds until the end of 2012.
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| I'd be highly dissapointed if we gave Senior another year, as I have posted before.
Would be dissapointed with a couple of others, but certainly Senior.
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| Quote: rhinoms "
Iirc O.O.C are..
Disko.
Senior.
Bailey.
Ali.
Donald.
Buderus.
And most notably imo our coach Bluey.
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All the above are indeed out of contract + Ambler, Worrall, Manning.
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| Quote: Gotcha "I'd be highly dissapointed if we gave Senior another year, as I have posted before.
Would be dissapointed with a couple of others, but certainly Senior.'"
who would you replace him with?
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| Quote: Sarahgrhino "who would you replace him with?'"
I don't need to go through that again. But regardless of who it is, I think we need to move on.
He's been a great servent and deserving of the status he will have for years to come. But the club need to realize when players reach their limit. They went a season too far with Barrie and I fear the same with Senior.
Let's move on with a new chapter.
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| Quote: Gotcha "I don't need to go through that again. But regardless of who it is, I think we need to move on.
He's been a great servent and deserving of the status he will have for years to come. But the club need to realize when players reach their limit. They went a season too far with Barrie and I fear the same with Senior.
Let's move on with a new chapter.'"
is senior still a better player than the person who would replace him? also who is better than him in sl? maybe matt king? But still nobody is a stand out player who is a better centre IMO. If Leeds could get a marque nrl 4 perhaps let Keith go or start his transition as a squad player into the backroom staff like deacs. If Leeds are to get shenton if the rumours are true then he needs to fight Keith for the 4 shirt.
I'm not sure who will go but if we lose beds, Ali, donald, bailey and if Keith is on reduced terms that should free up a fair bit of cap space to bring in some special talent, a marque centre, a marque prop, a marque backrower?
just a thought
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| Quote: sgtwilko "is senior still a better player than the person who would replace him? also who is better than him in sl? maybe matt king? But still nobody is a stand out player who is a better centre IMO. If Leeds could get a marque nrl 4 perhaps let Keith go or start his transition as a squad player into the backroom staff like deacs. If Leeds are to get shenton if the rumours are true then he needs to fight Keith for the 4 shirt.
I'm not sure who will go but if we lose beds, Ali, donald, bailey and if Keith is on reduced terms that should free up a fair bit of cap space to bring in some special talent, a marque centre, a marque prop, a marque backrower?
just a thought'"
It's irrelevant. Shenton would be a better bet than Senior is now. But regardless we are better off planning for the future. If it's a kid, it's a kid. We don't need a 35 year old holding back that spot now. Let's move on and start a new chapter.
14 games into the season now, and Senior has produced 1 good game to warrant a new contract. That tell's me all I need to know as far as the future goes. That good game played to number of games ratio will only reduce as another year passes.
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| Ambler needs to hit the gym. A gut that size on one so young is disgraceful.
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| I would have hoped that Watkins would be ready to take over from Senior in 2011 but that ones on hold now.
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| Quote: Gotcha "It's irrelevant. Shenton would be a better bet than Senior is now. '" It wasn't that long ago that Senior pulled Shenton's pants down in a big way.
I can understand your sentiment and succession planning is important but you play the best player, regardless of age and Shenton remains unfit to lace Senior's boots, even at the opposite ends of the age spectrum.
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| Quote: Gotcha "It's irrelevant. Shenton would be a better bet than Senior is now. But regardless we are better off planning for the future. If it's a kid, it's a kid. We don't need a 35 year old holding back that spot now. Let's move on and start a new chapter.
14 games into the season now, and Senior has produced 1 good game to warrant a new contract. That tell's me all I need to know as far as the future goes. That good game played to number of games ratio will only reduce as another year passes.'"
if we are handing out contracts on the first 14 games then I would think half the squad would be having a few sleepless nights! I disagree it is relevant. senior is still as good as any centre in the comp. maybe bring in a player to fight him for his shirt like shenton or go for a marque nrl centre like Jennings, lawerence, cooper, matai(nz), idris, morris bros, tait. but those players are hard to get due to rep footie. but If folau, hodges, inglis and hayne are fit none of those lads get a look in so are signable but very unrealistic.
Also toopie played well today at 4 as the titans over turned manly!
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| My opinions on the above contracts and recruitment, for what it's worth:
Bailey:
Easy decision, new contract. Retain.
JJB:
Ditto.
Lauititi:
Obviously try to keep Ali at the club as long as possible. He's still our main threat. Whether he wants another contract is up to him. If not no doubt another ball-playing second row will be signed from New Zealand.
Donald:
Again, it's more up to the player (family circumstances). He's still one of SLs best wingers.
Senior:
Time's got to be up at some stage, and we have to work the payroll so we precede that event. Shenton's coming in anyway it appears, right or wrong.
Diskin/Buderus:
Interesting which one is retained (or neither). Buderus is the superior player, but if he's let go then there's Diskin/McShane for hooker and cap and quota space for what we really need: a top class leading prop (Blair?) as Peacock's playing time lessens (if Lauititi or Donald are replaced cheap and English then there still may be space retaining Buderus and ditching Diskin. There are some interesting decisions for GH this off-season.)
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