Our pack is the issue, particularly front row.lose Garbutt and we have no front line SL front rower in the whole squad. I get where you are coming from and i do expect we will be far better than this year but best i think we could hope for is 5th/6th.that view could of course change if more quality players do come in.

Surely they must have another front rower or two in the sights to allow Garbutt to go? I'd consider Ablett, Ferres, (Fensom?), JJB, Peteru, Ward, Cam Smith as viable back rowers already in the squad (arguably Sutcliffe but I don't think he has the mongrel or D for the pack myself). Singleton and Crosby are solid rotation props but not impact or starters. So I'd go for 2 1st grade props. If we're prepared to spend a bit, it's a less glam position and we could aim for some real quality up front. Would make a massive difference - we looked a different side with just 1 Garbutt on 1 leg last season.

Just lookin at the 31 man squad from 2018, no less than 14 players are either gone or look like they're going. I've never seen a turnover of players like that in all my years watching the 'nos. Looking at likely squad for 2019, I still reckon we're short 2x props, 1x winger and possibly another hooker depending on Parcell/whether they'd risk running with Dwyer/Johnson/McClelland in there.

You would expect Sinfield to say that to cover his backside but if we are replacing half the squad including some quality signings then I should hope it is a quick fix. With a weak SL we should be top four and in the mix for silverware given the money that has been made available.

the money's always been available. according to the club we spent the full cap last 2 years

Maybe so, but this is the first time we have signed a marquee player, if reports are correct

yes true. hadn't thought of that.
I also don't believe this squad is full cap.

It’s certainly full of something sounding similar to cap

Every now and then we see wholesale changes.remember Dougie Laughton bringing in loads of new faces and clearing out the 80s lot in the early 90s then we had the big changes early 2000s and the show of faith in youth. This has been on the horizon for a while and many might say it is over due, it seems the club had been in denial for a few seasons but this season was a real slap in the face for those at the top to wake up to reality.

As nobody called the club, ever.

This reminds me of a time watching the ‘Ners in a semi against Saints. This man next to me kept shouting “Rhinos Blue and Gold Army” to the White Stripes ‘7 Nation Army’. It was quite annoying. I bet it’s the same person.

Rumbled.
When I was about 15 I did randomly shout out “go on Craig” (Innes) in a silent point in the middle of the South Stand. My voice broke halfway through “Craig” and my Dad took the p out of me for about 5 years afterwards.

Spot on assessment

I have been thinking about why we are reportedly looking to offload Garbutt, Cuthbo and Purcell. The reason I mention those three specifically is that they are Australian, most likely decent earners and clearly take up a quota spot.

If you look back at Furner when he was at Canberra he had a fair few problems in terms of his relationship and support for Josh Duggan and Blake Ferguson and ultimately their support for him. Now it may be nothing to do with Garbutt, cuthbo and Parcell but I wonder if Furner basically wants to bring in his own quota players, people he has coached more recently and who he thinks will support what he is trying to build. He has obv been involved in recruiting lolo and Hurrell.

In tens of attitude the most annoying thing last year IMO was that we were soft and often didn’t look up for the fight. Now it may be unfair but I would often look at Moon, Sutcliffe, Cuthbo, Parcell, Ferres as being part of that soft attitude and the likes of Garbutt who looks great when he is on the pitch but isn’t on it much and takes a very long time to get fit again.That is irrespective of if they were fit or playing banged up.

Well a good number of those players above could be gone by the start of the season and probably will be done by the start of next season. Furner will get three years and Sinfield will support him for that time, he will her support form the squad (home based) I just wonder if due to the issues he had at Canberra he thinks I want to clear out the quota players before we start and completely change the attitude we have.

1. Jack Walker
2. Tom Briscoe
3. Kallum Watkins
4. Konrad Hurrell
5. ????
6. Tuimoala Lolohea
7. Richie Myler
8. Adam Cuthbertson
9. Matt Parcell
10. Brad Singleton
11. Jamie Jones-Buchanan
12. Carl Ablett
13. Stevie Ward
14. Brad Dwyer
15. ????
16. Dom Crosby
17. Liam Sutcliffe
18. Brett Ferres
19. ????
20. Nathaniel Peteru
21. Mikolaj Oledzki
22. Ash Handley
23. Cameron Smith
24. Harry Newman
25. Callum Mclelland
26. Luke Briscoe
27. Alex Sutcliffe
28. Owen Trout
29. Tom Holroyd
30. Corey Johnson
31. Tyler Dupree
32. Muizz Mustapha
33. Loui McConnell

Out - Golding, Hall, Moon, Delaney, Garbutt, Keinhorst, Galloway, Mullally, Thompson, Ormondroyd, Jordan-Roberts, Walters, Lilley.

Unless the question marks are filled by genuine quality our pack still looks gash, and I'm not convinced by the 1,6 and 7 either, certainly as a unit. Happy to be proved wrong though.

Agree with Brisbane that pack is at the very least 1 quality prop & 2 BR's short.

Out - Golding, Hall, Moon, Delaney, Garbutt, Keinhorst, Galloway, Mullally, Thompson, Ormondroyd, Jordan-Roberts, Walters, Lilley.

Are Golding, Garbutt, Mullally, Ormonroyd and Walters definitely leaving.

Don't know about Garbutt, but the rest need to be told that if they insist on running out their contracts they'll be sent on permanent loan somewhere in the lower leagues, and will not be picked for the first team again. That might sound harsh, but we need to cull the squad and if they think they're better than that they need to go and prove it - back themselves to get a better deal elsewhere. We may end up paying wages for a bunch of players we don't want and won't use, and even let go of players who turn out better than we think, but that might be the price to pay in the short term.

I’d like us to keep Golding

What has changed regarding Parcell? I thought that he was one you believed was on his way out.

His Agent has come out and said in this mornings trade papers that he’s going nowhere and will be staying with us

Ok thanks for that.
Has Cuthbertson made similar comments because I noticed that he is back in?

Cuthbertson has just tweeted that it is news to him that he is free to go. Either it is a load of bull or Sinfield's man management skills are not what they should be. Hope it is the former.