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To the left of the tunnel there was a large group in yellow t-shirts and some of them were kicking off about 5 minutes from F/T saw the stewards wade in etc but other than the odd "we all hate Leeds s#*m" on the way to the game had some good banter with the Cas lot.

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Quote: rhinoms "To the left of the tunnel there was a large group in yellow t-shirts and some of them were kicking off about 5 minutes from F/T saw the stewards wade in etc but other than the odd "we all hate Leeds s#*m" on the way to the game had some good banter with the Cas lot.'"
Probably Leeds United fans as well icon_lol.gif

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Quote: chapylad "Probably Leeds United fans as well Cas have some despicable hate filled scum bags, as bad as the worst if them. Seen plenty of trouble and pro vacation Down the lane over the recent past. I don't call any clubs or supporters scum. That should be left for football scum.

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Well I both agree with you chapylad and also take issue with you regarding the Man of Steel. I agree fully with your point that Peacock should get it, no danger but your views on Clarke are somewhat misguided. Yes he only generally plays 40 mins or so, but that is all part and parcel of the game. Making them as potent as possible. Impact players are an important part of the game nowadays and if you are only going to include players that play the full eighty then that means that impact players cannot win it. Burrow is another brilliant player, but would he still be as brilliant if he played the full eighty at hooker rather than interchanging with Aiton. This season yes Clarke has only been playing 40 or so, but over those forty minutes he has largely been devastating, which he would not have been half as much if he was playing the full 80.

On Saturday he had to play around 65 to 70 minutes, which obviously nullified his attacking threat. Furthermore Leeds brilliant tactics and defence allied to the fact that not one of our forwards made a clean break or had any go forward, meant it was virtually impossible for him to show his attacking threat. When that happens the hallmark of a quality player is can he do the other nitty grittty side of the game well. Well he certainly did, because he made 37 tackles in the game, missing only the one and that is a phenomenal effort over around 65 minutes, over one tackle every two minutes. He was easily our top tackler and his carry rate was just as impressive although he made no breaks, the reason already explained. If you watch the game again his defence was awesome and without it, we would have got beat much easier. Furthermore his defence all year has been awesome, there is far far more to him than his silky running skills. There is more to RL than making breaks.

Clarke is a worthy contender and listen to the players of all clubs themselves, the ones that know and they all mention him, including the great man himself Jamie Peacock, who only the other week on the SL show, said that DC was teriffic and was one of his 3 selections for it.

However I agree that JP should get it, as he has been absolutely more than awesome this year.

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Quote: Zimmerman "

Excellent post. I agree with all your sentiments.

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Quote: Zimmerman "On Saturday he had to play around 65 to 70 minutes.'"


Thought this was a key issue. Can't imagine it was in Powell's plans to sub Sneyd during the first half but he must've felt like he had to.

The nullifying of the Clark threat was probably the best planning for an individual opponent since what we did to Big Les in the 2004 GF. However you can still see he's going to go on to big things. Sneyd on the other hand, with a move to Hull next year.....will be interesting to see if he's going to be just a one year hit.

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Quote: ThePrinter "Thought this was a key issue. Can't imagine it was in Powell's plans to sub Sneyd during the first half but he must've felt like he had to.

The nullifying of the Clark threat was probably the best planning for an individual opponent since what we did to Big Les in the 2004 GF. However you can still see he's going to go on to big things. Sneyd on the other hand, with a move to Hull next year.....will be interesting to see if he's going to be just a one year hit.'"


Would agree with all that, including the bit on Sneyd. Could well be that he found his niche with Cas, but may not be able to replicate it with the Airlie Birds.

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Yes good post Zimmerman and some good points put in there.
As I said previously maybe it was OTT to say people should be ashamed of themselves for touting Clark as MOS.
I was eluding to the fact that for me JP should walk it this year with no real opposition to take it away from him this time like they did before.
I also stated that Clark is the best hooker in SL which should go some way into proving I have every respect for the player and would be the icing on the cake if we had him.
Maybe your coach got his tactics wrong on Saturday and should have spared Clark so he could get the impact he needs.
I was amazed he took Sneyd off but must have had his reasons for that too.
So to recap Clark is pure class and is a joy to watch, And JP for MOS
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Happy to congratulate the best team on the day. That's what it's all about. Sticking to the game plan, defending like your life depends on it, supporting your mates, being composed and ruthless in attack. I just wish Hull FC could do that more than once in a blue moon.

Well done Leeds

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Bit late I know but congratulations on defeating us on Saturday afternoon. A deserved victory.

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Quote: Dead Man Walking "Bit late I know but congratulations on defeating us on Saturday afternoon. A deserved victory.'"


Thanks.

You should be proud of you're team also, hung in there right till the end when others may have folded.

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Quote: Biff Tannen "Thanks.

You should be proud of you're team also, hung in there right till the end when others may have folded.'"


Very proud o fthem definately. I'm glad we didn't fold too.

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anyone know why carvell didn''t play/ big loss imo for cas. his know how and experience would have been crucial

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Castleford are looking the real deal at the moment. They made a good account of themselves at Wembley and are currently title contenders. To say they were no-hopers last season, this is a real achievement.

I really like the way that Powell has them playing and with the exception of Dorn (he's just a toss-pot) I like the Cas players.

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Quote: tad rhino "anyone know why carvell didn''t play. big loss imo for cas. his know how and experience would have been crucial'"


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