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[quote="Harrigan":2spn4cnp]Is there an off switch on Remarkable_Rhino?[/quote:2spn4cnp]
[quote="Swarcliffe Rhino":2spn4cnp]No.[/quote:2spn4cnp]
[quote="G1":2spn4cnp]Remarkable Rhino posts something that makes sense shocker![/quote:2spn4cnp]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_53248.gif |
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| Quote: Omar Little "So the big drop in attendances came in 2009, I wonder what could have caused that...
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...people do seem to forget that Britain is in one of it's worst Financial Climates we've had in years'"
Yes I fully appreciate that thanks.
You'd think that perhaps, you'd need to give people even more of an intensive to spend their hard earned cash though wouldn't you. By, perhaps giving them something good to watch and not have them feel like they're wasting their money.
Just have a look at what's happened to Warrington's average attendance over the same period. Go on. I dare you. Or is Warrington more financially stable than the rest of the country? |
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[b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable
...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo]
[quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish>
IA mode off.  [/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg |
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| Quote: Remarkable_Rhinos "Yes I fully appreciate that thanks.
You'd think that perhaps, you'd need to give people even more of an intensive to spend their hard earned cash though wouldn't you. By, perhaps giving them something good to watch and not have them feel like they're wasting their money.
Just have a look at what's happened to Warrington's average attendance over the same period. Go on. I dare you. Or is Warrington more financially stable than the rest of the country?'"
Careful, Warrington always had the potential to grow their crowds and the new ground did most of the that, the success that has followed has kept the figure consistent during the recession.
Also, they have a sugar daddy who is happy to throw his fortune at the club to cover the annual loss they would otherwise show in their accounts!!! |
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[b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable
...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo]
[quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish>
IA mode off. [/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg |
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| Quote: Remarkable_Rhinos "Yes I fully appreciate that thanks.
You'd think that perhaps, you'd need to give people even more of an intensive to spend their hard earned cash though wouldn't you. By, perhaps giving them something good to watch and not have them feel like they're wasting their money.
Just have a look at what's happened to Warrington's average attendance over the same period. Go on. I dare you. Or is Warrington more financially stable than the rest of the country?'"
Plus, Tesco and the council helped them build a new ground too! |
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You come at the king - You better not miss.
It ain't what you takin', it's who you takin' from, ya feel me? How you expect to run with the wolves come night when you spend all day sparring with the puppies?:41106.jpg |
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "This isn't a sudden, unexpected piece of expenditure that the club are faced with - the long term future (or lack of it) of the South Stand has been known for at least the last two years.
That the club have now decided they don't have the funds to complete the work and won't risk borrowing to do so smacks of board level incompetence. If no further explanations are forthcoming on why this decision has been made it leaves both Hetherington and Caddick looking foolish.
Frankly it will serve them right if the council refuse to grant an H&S certificate for next year and insist on the entire stand being closed.
I'm interested in the "funding model similar to other Super League clubs" line and what that means in practice - up front receipt of the Sky money for future years?'"
The last bit is very intriguing...I read it as we've decided we'd like the council to pay/subsidise the stand
I think this line in Hetherington's statement is key...
"the cost of borrowing and repaying the debt and the risk to the club involved"
...the cost of borrowing has remained very high since the 2008 banking crisis and is something that's taking longer to stabilise than experts seemed to predict it would. Maybe the club having previously delayed action on the stand thought credit would be more readily available on attractive terms by now but it simply not...so hence the need to go to the council? |
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[b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable
...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo]
[quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish>
IA mode off. [/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg |
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| Quote: Omar Little "The last bit is very intriguing...I read it as we've decided we'd like the council to pay/subsidise the stand
I think this line in Hetherington's statement is key...
"the cost of borrowing and repaying the debt and the risk to the club involved"
...the cost of borrowing has remained very high since the 2008 banking crisis and is something that's taking longer to stabilise than experts seemed to predict it would. Maybe the club having previously delayed action on the stand thought credit would be more readily available on attractive terms by now but it simply not...so hence the need to go to the council?'"
I think this is probably spot on! |
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You come at the king - You better not miss.
It ain't what you takin', it's who you takin' from, ya feel me? How you expect to run with the wolves come night when you spend all day sparring with the puppies?:41106.jpg |
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| Quote: Remarkable_Rhinos "Yes I fully appreciate that thanks.'"
TBF I should probably have included a 
I'm sure everyone is very aware - it just surprised me how directly the change in attendances coincides with the post-financial-crash reality hitting consumers pockets (I hadn't realised that we had such a big drop in one season). |
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[quote="Harrigan":2spn4cnp]Is there an off switch on Remarkable_Rhino?[/quote:2spn4cnp]
[quote="Swarcliffe Rhino":2spn4cnp]No.[/quote:2spn4cnp]
[quote="G1":2spn4cnp]Remarkable Rhino posts something that makes sense shocker![/quote:2spn4cnp]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_53248.gif |
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| Quote: Omar Little "TBF I should probably have included a ![]()
I'll let you off then.
BTW, I did the work for you. From 2007 to 2011 we've seen a 14.05% DECREASE in attendance.
Warrington have seen a 5.62% INCREASE. I might move to Warrington. They're clearly not having a recession.
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You come at the king - You better not miss.
It ain't what you takin', it's who you takin' from, ya feel me? How you expect to run with the wolves come night when you spend all day sparring with the puppies?:41106.jpg |
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| Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "The last bit is very intriguing...I read it as we've decided we'd like the council to pay/subsidise the stand
I think this line in Hetherington's statement is key...
"the cost of borrowing and repaying the debt and the risk to the club involved"
...the cost of borrowing has remained very high since the 2008 banking crisis and is something that's taking longer to stabilise than experts seemed to predict it would. Maybe the club having previously delayed action on the stand thought credit would be more readily available on attractive terms by now but it simply not...so hence the need to go to the council?'"
I think this is probably spot on!'"
Why thank you 
I'd also add that it's probably exactly the type of decision that Caddick should be use to taking in his day job and, therefore, we should probably be grateful that the club is in his hands. |
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You come at the king - You better not miss.
It ain't what you takin', it's who you takin' from, ya feel me? How you expect to run with the wolves come night when you spend all day sparring with the puppies?:41106.jpg |
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| Quote: Remarkable_Rhinos "I'll let you off then.
BTW, I did the work for you. From 2007 to 2011 we've seen a 14.05% DECREASE in attendance.
Warrington have seen a 5.62% INCREASE. I might move to Warrington. They're clearly not having a recession. ![]()
Have you seen the price of houses in Wilmslow and Alderly Edge these days...the "Cheshire set" probably haven't even heard of the banking crisis 
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| Quote: Omar Little "Have you seen the price of houses in Wilmslow and Alderly Edge these days...the "Cheshire set" probably haven't even heard of the banking crisis ![]()
Actually, I imagine for some of them it's knocked 4 figures off their annual bonus... I'm sure they'll manage it though.
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At the risk of sounding a bit naive if the Southstand was only granted a safety licence for two years and that expires before the start of next season how can Leeds advertise season tickets for the Southstand when they cannot guarantee it will be open?
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[quote="G1":1x8x7ghm]Nice one Andy. You articulated a differing opinion given reasons and substance.
There's really no place for the likes of you on Substandard. [/quote:1x8x7ghm]:7098.jpg |
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "This isn't a sudden, unexpected piece of expenditure that the club are faced with - the long term future (or lack of it) of the South Stand has been known for at least the last two years.
That the club have now decided they don't have the funds to complete the work and won't risk borrowing to do so smacks of board level incompetence. If no further explanations are forthcoming on why this decision has been made it leaves both Hetherington and Caddick looking foolish.
Frankly it will serve them right if the council refuse to grant an H&S certificate for next year and insist on the entire stand being closed.
I'm interested in the "funding model similar to other Super League clubs" line and what that means in practice - up front receipt of the Sky money for future years?'"
This.
Some of the quotes from the club and the fact that all this has been done in the public spotlight is quite frankly an embarrassment |
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Soon we will be dancing the Fandango
FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB'S DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESS THEN I DONT KNOW WHAT IS.
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I hope its not the mid 90s revisited when we were all asking the old regime just what is going on?and when we just about went bust we than knew.
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[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj]
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The timing and wording of this are very, very intriguing.
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