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| The club is not going to relocate from Headingley we all know that ,but if we did where would an appropriate site be?
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| Quote: Lawrie L "Is it a top class stadium though?'"
No, but how many "top class" stadiums are there in the UK, across all sports?
Single figures, I would venture:
Wembley
Murrayfield
Cardiff (Millenium)
Old Trafford
Olympic Park
Etihad
Emirates
Most of the rest are either old stadia starting to look a bit tired, or medium sized new-builds with all the character and appeal of a used tissue.
Headingley doesn't need to venture into that bracket to attract/maintain visitors. It's always interesting to hear overseas players who have experienced its atmosphere talk about it in glowing terms, even when their new homes are much more salubrious - Wayne Collins this week being a perfect example.
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| Quote: Old Feller "Further to all this, I think it's interesting to note that apart from those clubs that share with soccer clubs, all the new grounds have a lower capacity than those they replaced.
Another reason not to relocate away from Headingley.'"
Leeds don't need a 20k+ stadium when was the last time the crowd was >20k
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| Quote: lionarmour87 "The club is not going to relocate from Headingley we all know that ,but if we did where would an appropriate site be?'"
Plenty of brownfield land in Leeds, but it's primarily south of the river. Otherwise, you're heading further out into the suburbs where transport links are poorer.
An ideal site would probably be somewhere along the A1/M1 link in the Colton/Garforth/Swillington kind of area. Good road access, decent bus links - you're just reliant on finding a friendly farmer happy to sell you the land you'll need and a compliant planning committee.
The other problem is that if the rugby side did decide it wanted to move, what would the value be of the current site with the cricket ground in situ? I would venture next to nothing, given you couldn't really build on it.
So any funding for a new stadium would have to be borrowed, either from the bank or from Mr Caddick.
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "No, but how many "top class" stadiums are there in the UK, across all sports?
Single figures, I would venture
I wasn't too impressed with Murrayfield when I was there, didn't think the facilities were all that cracking
For me though it's a fine line between holding nostalgic views and the need for 'new'. For me, I love Headingley as it has been a major part of my life however the need for 'new' is screaming loud and clear
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| Would people be happy with safe standing(rail seats) in a redeveloped south stand?
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "No, but how many "top class" stadiums are there in the UK, across all sports?
Single figures, I would venture
For an elite club Headingley is a disgrace - given all the success the club has had that has not been reflected in investment in facilities.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Leeds don't need a 20k+ stadium when was the last time the crowd was >20k'"
We get close to 20k and over a few times a year.
But with some good redevelopment in the stadium and facilities we could be close to averaging 20k every season. But as I said earlier I feel the club has really being dragging its heels in the last 5 years or so.
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "No, but how many "top class" stadiums are there in the UK, across all sports?
Single figures, I would venture
SJP?
Interested to know whether you class that as an 'old' stadium or a 'new'?
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| We'll not over 20k every year but we have had over in the recent past. And get pretty close on an annual basis
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| Quote: rhinos21 "Would people be happy with safe standing(rail seats) in a redeveloped south stand?'"
I'd like to see a two tiered with seating and boxes on top tier and safe standing on bottom.
Big problem with the south stand also is that when the crowd gets bigger than say 17k the south stand is packed in like sardines.
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| Quote: Jamie101 "SJP?
Interested to know whether you class that as an 'old' stadium or a 'new'?'"
Not experienced it "in the flesh", although I have the others I listed.
It's a bit of a hotch-potch isn't it, much like the old Highbury? Some new bits, some older bits that had a lick of paint.
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "Not experienced it "in the flesh", although I have the others I listed.
It's a bit of a hotch-potch isn't it, much like the old Highbury? Some new bits, some older bits that had a lick of paint.'"
I'd say since the back end of the 90s that it has all been done over. Under the surface walking around, there are nooks and corners (if you are in the know) that are a tad 'older' but they are few and far between really.
If you are going to Magic Weekend (hope you are) you can have a look at it then
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| Headingley RL ground couldn't really be sold for very much what could be developed on what would be just a space between the roadside and cricket ground.I remember in the 1970s when LCC were making a serious bid for the 1978 commonwealth games they earmarked around a possible site around Wheatwood ringroad area .I think an ideal capacity for headingley after redevelopment would be 23-24K and its no good saying 'oh we don't get anywhere near that'but settling for 18k capacity is sending out the wrong messages, how many FA prem teams fill their stadiums
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| Just as long as the Roof in the South Stand isn't too high so it looses the Atmosphere.
I think that's why it makes Headingley one of the most Atmospheric Grounds certainly in Rugby League.
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