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| Quote ="jools"bet no other teams tried that- quick get on the phone to mcdummy- he must of missed that gem the last two times this season.'"
I didn't say it was easy. You could come up with a simple gameplan to stop the other top teams, but theres a reason they are near the top, they are difficult to stop, no matter how simple you make it.
Don't get so uppity. I've noticed that about hudds fans this season.
Hudds are going well this season, but things step up a gear at the business end and hudds are very much an unproven team. Your solitary good result in the playoffs was away at warrington in 2010.
If leeds were to snatch an unlikely result, they'd have a game in hand and be right on your tails for 2nd spot with warrington sniffing around as well. Bradford did win there earlier in the season so it's not impossible.
Away at warrington in the CC, an unexpected slip in the league and in a matter of weeks you could be out of the cc and 4th in the league. It's very easy for the season to unravel fast.
Your fans need to STFU and start crowing when you actually win something.
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| I haven't seen any crowing from Hudds fans on here or anyone being uppity.
It's going to be a good close game and a chance for Hudds to pull away from Leeds.
Leeds can try to do it from 5th if they want but I suspect top two would be the best chance of a GF place for Giants.
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| Quote ="wigsey"I haven't seen any crowing from Hudds fans on here or anyone being uppity.
It's going to be a good close game and a chance for Hudds to pull away from Leeds.
Leeds can try to do it from 5th if they want but I suspect top two would be the best chance of a GF place for Giants.'"
I don't think huddersfield will make the grand final, even if they finish in the top 2.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"I don't think huddersfield will make the grand final, even if they finish in the top 2.'"
I think they might.
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| Quote ="wigsey"I think they might.'"
If they get anywhere near the CC final, they won't.
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| I think they might
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| Quote ="wigsey"I think they might'"
I think they won't.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"I think they won't.'"
I'm sure the bookies would agree with you.
But I would think, given the CC draw, that Giants are far more likely to make the GF than the CC final.
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| Quote ="wigsey"I'm sure the bookies would agree with you.
But I would think, given the CC draw, that Giants are far more likely to make the GF than the CC final.'"
Not really.They will still have to beat a couple of the big teams to make OT theres no getting away from that.if they beat Wire in the cup they may then draw Sheffield/London in the semis and will then be heavy favourites to make Wembley.Im Sure it will be a big target for Hudds. after knocking Leeds out in style in the last round.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"Not really.They will still have to beat a couple of the big teams to make OT theres no getting away from that.if they beat Wire in the cup they may then draw Sheffield/London in the semis and will then be heavy favourites to make Wembley.Im Sure it will be a big target for Hudds. after knocking Leeds out in style in the last round.'"
Giants Best price 10-1 for CC, Best price 11-1 GF.
I may have to go with your point 
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| If Ablett is back we should use him the same way we did in the GF when he targeted Briers for the entire match, even before full time Briers was broken.
We should do the same thing against Brough and try and play him out of the match.
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| Quote ="cymraegrhino"If Ablett is back we should use him the same way we did in the GF when he targeted Briers for the entire match, even before full time Briers was broken.
We should do the same thing against Brough and try and play him out of the match.'"
I think Brough is a better defender than Briers but i see your point the key for me is our ruck defence and stopping Lunt.
Lunt has gone up another level this year and his distribution and DH runs are quality he tore us apart in the CC and got the quick ball for Brough to kick us to death at HQ in the SL game.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"I think Brough is a better defender than Briers but i see your point the key for me is our ruck defence and stopping Lunt.
Lunt has gone up another level this year and his distribution and DH runs are quality he tore us apart in the CC and got the quick ball for Brough to kick us to death at HQ in the SL game.'"
Lunt has been excellent this year and deserved to play for England last week IMO.
If we are to get anything from this game we need to be much more switched on and organised in the middle of the park than we were on Monday because if Widnes can cut through us that easily then Brough and Lunt will pick us apart.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"I think Brough is a better defender than Briers but i see your point the key for me is our ruck defence and stopping Lunt.
Lunt has gone up another level this year and his distribution and DH runs are quality he tore us apart in the CC and got the quick ball for Brough to kick us to death at HQ in the SL game.'"
Your opinion ceases to hold any water due to your inability to see anything through the Blue and Amber goggles!!
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| In all probability hudds will win the game comfortably which will take us out of contention for 2nd spot, with warrington away coming up as well 3rd spot could start to slip away. It's looking like 4th spot is our best, and most likely finishing position.
I don't know what it is about 4th spot, I just don't fancy it.
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| by rights Shudders should put 40 plus on what is little more than our academy side. If they don't you have to think Shudders wont be contenders (again)
Its the sort of game for Leeds which will pay massive dividends in years to come in blooding what looks like an exciting crop of youngsters coming through
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"In all probability hudds will win the game comfortably which will take us out of contention for 2nd spot, with warrington away coming up as well 3rd spot could start to slip away. It's looking like 4th spot is our best, and most likely finishing position.
I don't know what it is about 4th spot, I just don't fancy it.'"
Looking at the remaining fixtures for us it does look like 4th is going to be where we will end up.
If Wigan finish first as expected now, and we do get 4th we could be looking at playing them 3 times in 3 weeks as we play them last game of the regular season  that is assuming we lose the first play off game to them and then they pick us in club call. Very possible.
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| I hope Wigan pick us in the club call
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| Quote ="rhino phil"by rights Shudders should put 40 plus on what is little more than our academy side. If they don't you have to think Shudders wont be contenders (again)
Its the sort of game for Leeds which will pay massive dividends in years to come in blooding what looks like an exciting crop of youngsters coming through'"
It's getting to the stage where we need to be bringing through a top quality forward and playmaker.
Peacock and leuluai especially simply won't be playing much longer, add mcguire to that as well. Singleton and baldwinson certinaly seem to have plenty of potential. In a few years they could be top forwards. I remember a stringy winger by the name of ryan hall making his debut milleniium magic 2007. A few years later he was one of the top wingers in the competition.
I'm not sure about sutcliffe. Bringing through a decent playmaker is damn difficult. We struck gold with sinfield mcguire and burrow. We may end up having to recruit from outside which is very difficult at the moment. Maybe we will need to alter the style of our play. At the moment we are less structured and rely on individual outburts of play from the likes of mcguire and burrow.
Wigan on the other hand play a much more structured systematic game whici is easier for less skillful players to slot in and be effective. With respect to their halfbacks, they don't have anyone of note playing there, but they are scoring points for fun.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"Looking at the remaining fixtures for us it does look like 4th is going to be where we will end up.
If Wigan finish first as expected now, and we do get 4th we could be looking at playing them 3 times in 3 weeks as we play them last game of the regular season
that is assuming we lose the first play off game to them and then they pick us in club call. Very possible.'"
We would win one of those games IMO.
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| Quote ="MattyLeeds"I hope Wigan pick us in the club call'"
Could you imagine the uproar on the pie eaters board if they put 50 points on us two weeks running then we show up again in the one that matters to deny them OT...Meltdown!
Could it be this years masterplan??
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| Quote ="MattyLeeds"I hope Wigan pick us in the club call'"
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"If we are the lowest ranked team going into the final match, they will do.'"
True.
They never learn
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"Could you imagine the uproar on the pie eaters board if they put 50 points on us two weeks running then we show up again in the one that matters to deny them OT...Meltdown!
Could it be this years masterplan??'"
That, would be amazing
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| Quote ="MattyLeeds"The Rhinos are without Joel Moon through suspension and will also be without nine other first team players through injury. Kevin Sinfield (thumb), Ryan Bailey (thumb), Kallum Watkins (ankle), Kylie Leuluai (knee), Liam Hood (ankle), Joe Vickery (knee), Brett Delaney (knee), Stevie Ward (shoulder) and Danny McGuire (leg) are all currently out. Brad Singleton will face a late fitness test on a dead leg injury suffered in the Widnes victory last Monday.
The 19 man squad is entirely made up of players eligible to play for England and includes 15 players from the club's academy structure with only Mitch Achurch, Jamie Peacock, Ian Kirke and Zak Hardaker not developed by the Rhinos. The average age of the 19 man squad to face the Giants is just 24 and, if selected, Minchella would become the first Leeds player to appear for the club who was born in the Super League era.
The squad in full is:
1. Zak Hardaker
2. Ben Jones-Bishop
5. Ryan Hall
7. Rob Burrow
9. Paul McShane
10. Jamie Peacock (c)
11. Jamie Jones-Buchanan
12. Carl Ablett
17. Ian Kirke
18. Chris Clarkson
19. Mitch Achurch
21. Richard Moore
22. Jimmy Keinhorst
23.Brad Singleton
26. Liam Sutcliffe
27. Thomas Minns
28. Jordan Baldwinson
30. Alex Foster
31. Elliot Minchella'"
Achurch (bluddy useless Aussie) and....er maybe ...Kirke  to miss out for me
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