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things learnt from tonight.

Webb should not play FB again...Hardaker is a better attacker, defender, and gives away fewer penalties.
Ward should partner Burrow in the halves. Shockingly, when we have pace and creativity, we look like scoring
Peacock should start from the bench. He can't play a full 80, Griffin can do more minutes, and be effective
Ian Kirke can play as a prop, if we give him the time on the field.
Sinfield shouldn't be left defending in the centres.

Atm we have a couple of big questions. Most immediately, what to do with Zak and Stevie. Both played well, don't deserve to be dropped. So where does Danny play, given Burrow looked good playing the full 80 at scrumhalf yesterday.

All in all, I think we have the core of another championship-winning side. The question is getting some of the kids to kick on and make the right signings. But with this core group, i'm confident:

1. Hardaker
2. Jones-Bishop
3. Watkins
4. ?
5. Hall
6. Ward
7. Burrow
8. ?
9. Hood
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11. Delaney
12. Ablett
13. Clarkson/?

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Quote: chapylad "
JP needs a dominating pack to play with and his style has become predictable.
Having said that I don`t think anybody played well tonight and if we don`t give some of the youngsters a run over the next 3 games the forwards will be on their knees come August.'"


Peacock is meant to be a member of a dominating pack, not reliant upon the pack.
On his knees in early June never mind August. Time to hang up his boots, he isn't going to get any better, its downhill all the way now JP

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Quote: nantwichexile "
It does seem barmy that Ablett is in instead of Atkkins at centre.....and Westwood's sitting on the sidelines is baffling.
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Apparently Westwood is booked in for a hernia op shortly, that's why he's been left out.

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[quote="Jamie Peacock MBE":af0ys02h]'There's been a couple of times during my career when I've thought about moving elsewhere but, when I run out in front of 17,000, 18,000 people at Headingley, I've thought 'nah, this is the place for me'.[/quote:af0ys02h] [img:af0ys02h]http://orig08.deviantart.net/430a/f/2012/119/7/9/wolverine_sign_by_zekua-d4xydfq.jpg[/img:af0ys02h]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_62325.gif



Quote: Tyke's/Rhinos No. 1 Fan "things learnt from tonight.

Webb should not play FB again...Hardaker is a better attacker, defender, and gives away fewer penalties.
Ward should partner Burrow in the halves. Shockingly, when we have pace and creativity, we look like scoring
Peacock should start from the bench. He can't play a full 80, Griffin can do more minutes, and be effective
Ian Kirke can play as a prop, if we give him the time on the field.
Sinfield shouldn't be left defending in the centres.

Atm we have a couple of big questions. Most immediately, what to do with Zak and Stevie. Both played well, don't deserve to be dropped. So where does Danny play, given Burrow looked good playing the full 80 at scrumhalf yesterday.

All in all, I think we have the core of another championship-winning side. The question is getting some of the kids to kick on and make the right signings. But with this core group, i'm confident
5. Hall
6. Ward
7. Burrow
8. Fuifui Moimoi
9. Hood
10. Brad Singleton
11. Delaney
12. Ablett
13. Sinfield'"


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Quote: GCM1980 "Apparently Westwood is booked in for a hernia op shortly, that's why he's been left out.'"


Atkins is also in the squad. Aston Wilson must be wondering what he has to do to get selected icon_wink.gif

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Quote: livewire " As for a couple of your other 'internationals' namely Ablett (the serial whinger) and Buchanan they were non-existent. The Exiles will be laughing there socks off next week and also very glad that Benny Westwood will be sat watching.'"


Agreed but since when has Ablett been International standard?

In with a good shout for 'dumbest penalty of the season so far' and it's a tough category to win at Leeds.

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Quote: tvoc "Agreed but since when has Ablett been International standard?

In with a good shout for 'dumbest penalty of the season so far' and it's a tough category to win at Leeds.'"


Ablett in many ways has recently been Leeds's best centre owing to, not least, his ability to remain fit to play. His main assett is his awareness to bring his winger into play .....however this is a sad indictment rather than an endorsement of his international status. Have stated this before: great club man (usually) IMO, but no more.

Atkins conversely demonstrated the necessary skills to be that class above.

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Earlier in the season Ablett warranted a call up imo but now considering how we are playing to see so many Leeds players called up to the full England squad is shocking and imo only Burrow warrants it.
I just wish sometimes the international team was selected on FORM especially against the Exiles again we will learn nothimg we don't know already about JP ,Sinfield ,etc etc and Chase should only be there as a jock strap waller!!!

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Quote: rhinoms "Earlier in the season Ablett warranted a call up imo but now considering how we are playing to see so many Leeds players called up to the full England squad is shocking and imo only Burrow warrants it.
I just wish sometimes the international team was selected on FORM especially against the Exiles again we will learn nothimg we don't know already about JP ,Sinfield ,etc etc and Chase should only be there as a jock strap waller!!!'"


That is no way to talk about our future new half back signing icon_confused.gif

In all seriousness I agree with you: it is embarrassing really. 'International' RL continues to be a farce.

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Quote: tvoc "Agreed but since when has Ablett been International standard?

In with a good shout for 'dumbest penalty of the season so far' and it's a tough category to win at Leeds.'"


icon_lol.gif indeed!

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Quote: rhinoms "Earlier in the season Ablett warranted a call up imo but now considering how we are playing to see so many Leeds players called up to the full England squad is shocking and imo only Burrow warrants it.
I just wish sometimes the international team was selected on FORM especially against the Exiles again we will learn nothimg we don't know already about JP ,Sinfield ,etc etc and Chase should only be there as a jock strap waller!!!'"

It should be picked on form, yes, but form over more than a period of a couple of weeks ideally. Ablett especially, fully deserves his call up and the collective performances of the Leeds team over the last couple of weeks should take nothing away from that.

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Quote: nantwichexile "Agreed but since when has Ablett been International standard?

In with a good shout for 'dumbest penalty of the season so far' and it's a tough category to win at Leeds.'"


Ablett in many ways has recently been Leeds's best centre owing to, not least, his ability to remain fit to play. His main assett is his awareness to bring his winger into play .....however this is a sad indictment rather than an endorsement of his international status. Have stated this beforeI completely disagree. Atkins is essentially a second row taken out of the pack a battering ram out wide. Little better at using his winger than Hardaker. Ablett is a second row who has excellent ball skills and great reading of the game. Which means he's capable of playing centre to a decent standard.

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Quote: The Eagle "I completely disagree. Atkins is essentially a second row taken out of the pack a battering ram out wide. Little better at using his winger than Hardaker. Ablett is a second row who has excellent ball skills and great reading of the game. Which means he's capable of playing centre to a decent standard.'"


Really? I think Atkins has become an excellent SL centre under TS. He is far better than any centre in our squad (well aprt from Watkins). Atkins has improved massivly when it comes to creating space for his winger.

For me Ablett hasn't been as good as some on here think he has. He's never a centre and should be moved back into the forwards ASAP. Mind you can anyone remember the last time Ablett had a good game playing in the back row?

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Quote: The Eagle "I completely disagree. Atkins is essentially a second row taken out of the pack a battering ram out wide. Little better at using his winger than Hardaker. Ablett is a second row who has excellent ball skills and great reading of the game. Which means he's capable of playing centre to a decent standard.'"


Talk about blinkered rose tinted spectacles: try imagining Atkins in a Leeds jersey and Ablett in the Warrington jersey.

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