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| Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"You've certainly achieved a lot and have a lot to be proud of - please understand that I'm not trying to patronise you.
What I am trying to do is promote the ideal, to promote the sanctity of biblical marriage. This doesn't automatically mean that I'm lamenting all alternative setups.'"
Fair enough. I'll respect your view and your faith, even though I don't necessarily agree with your ideal.
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| You can't argue against blind faith where any reason or logic can be swept away with a simple "God's will" statement.
In the same way you can't turn the tide or prevent the sun from rising, trying to convince someone with blind, indoctrinated faith that they are wrong is woefully futile.
I will treat the OP with the same amount of attention I give those deluded bible-bashers who insist on shouting at me on Briggate and simply walk past uttering “f**king nutters”.
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| perhaps the OP studied at Liberty University, where they have dinosaur fossils that are only 'three thousand years old', creationism is part of the curriculum and students can be suspended for a whole range of offences including sharing a motel room with two members of the opposite sex and 'witchcraft'. The fact that a man who could be president of the USA has given a talk at this nuthouse beggars belief.
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| Quote rhino phil="rhino phil"perhaps the OP studied at Liberty University, where they have dinosaur fossils that are only 'three thousand years old', creationism is part of the curriculum and students can be suspended for a whole range of offences including sharing a motel room with two members of the opposite sex and 'witchcraft'. The fact that a man who could be president of the USA has given a talk at this nuthouse beggars belief.'"
I am not a Mormon.
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| Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"I am not a Mormon.'"
.....but you [iare[/i a bigot who believes in a super being because somebody else has told you he/it exists. 
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| Quote nantwichexile="nantwichexile".....but you [iare[/i a bigot who believes in a super being because somebody else has told you he/it exists.
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No one has told me He exists; I have come to this conclusion by myself.
You should also remind yourself of the definition of bigotry and see if applies to your own actions before accusing others.
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| Quote rhino phil="rhino phil"perhaps the OP studied at Liberty University, where they have dinosaur fossils that are only 'three thousand years old', creationism is part of the curriculum and students can be suspended for a whole range of offences including sharing a motel room with two members of the opposite sex and 'witchcraft'. The fact that a man who could be president of the USA has given a talk at this nuthouse beggars belief.'"
god  help us......is that anywhere near the creationism museum I remember recently reading about ?
Thing is which story of creationism do they endorse ? There are some great variations to choose from around the world......!!! 
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| oh ffs some of the replies to the OP are showing yourselves up and showing your own attitudes and lack of understanding.
If kirkstaller has those veiws then respect them and him for what he feels. i dont agree with them and feel he is wrong and i wouldnt dream to sign up but i will defend his right to hold them.
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| Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"No one has told me He exists; I have come to this conclusion by myself.
You should also remind yourself of the definition of bigotry and see if applies to your own actions before accusing others.'"
Do you think you would have that same concept of a god you have concluded exists if you were born in a different part of the world......say some remote Amazonian tribe that has not ever had contact with the world you know ?
I do [inot[/i have a complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from my own.....IF their beliefs and opinions are based on logic and reason.
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| Quote nantwichexile="nantwichexile"Do you think you would have that same concept of a god you have concluded exists if you were born in a different part of the world......say some remote Amazonian tribe that has not ever had contact with the world you know ?'"
God judges us according to what we know. I'm sure my understanding of Christianity is better than if I had lived in the Amazon, but that does not absolve them of responsibility.
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| Quote BigJake="BigJake"oh ffs some of the replies to the OP are showing yourselves up and showing your own attitudes and lack of understanding.
If kirkstaller has those veiws then respect them and him for what he feels. i dont agree with them and feel he is wrong and i wouldnt dream to sign up but i will defend his right to hold them.'"
Would you still defend the rights of those who believe infidels/those who dare to believe in another religion/god should be rightfully decapitated with a blunt knife or be blown apart indiscriminately by bombs ?
Or is there a point where you would draw a line ?
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| Quote nantwichexile="nantwichexile"Would you still defend the rights of those who believe infidels/those who dare to believe in another religion/god should be rightfully decapitated with a blunt knife or be blown apart indiscriminately by bombs ?
Or is there a point where you would draw a line ?'"
Am I advocating harm against others?
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