Only when the man in question is Iestyn Harris.

Can't believe Keinhorst didn't get on the pitch. What message does that send out, work hard, defend brilliantly, chase everything, make no mistakes - get benched.

it is. I can't believe Mac is still in situ TBH though. its gone beyond embarrassing now. Unless we have someone lined up to come in for next year and he is just seeing out his time. Bottom line is any big club would be wanting the managers head if they were rock bottom 3 games to go and all fans know it.

To be honest, he did deliver you the treble last year, whereas Radford hasnt wont a thing for us - so maybe the fans criticising you is maybe due to them thinking that he should be given the chance to re-invent the Leeds team

Harris never started on the bench did he? Murray would start him at fullback to keep him out of the way for the early exchanges then bring on St.Hilaire with Harris moving to his real position of stand-off and Darryl Powell either going off or switching to the pack. That's how I remember it anyway. Either way, Liam Sutcliffe is no Iestyn Harris and I'm not even sure Ashton Golding is any Marcus St.Hilaire.

he did, we appreciate that and all he has done but it feels like him and a few of the team TBH have done all they can and we need a fresh regime. a 6 year run as head coach is a long stint in RL these days.

I haven't said too much lately, our fate has been obvious for a while and we will see what happens in middle 8s. If he stays for next year i hope to be proved wrong but think leaving things in hope could well set us back for a lot longer than would be the case were we to start again now with clear plans. Whatever happens we need a few key new signings, the current batch have no leaders and are rudderless, i don't see thst changing a great deal next season were the squad to stay pretty much as is now.

The only possible excuse for Jimmy not getting a game is that he was never fit in the first place, or got injured in the warm up and we had no fit 18th man....

But, even if that was the case, we had players out at Fev, so if we were literally down to our last 17 men, one of them would have been recalled to be 18th man in case of emergency...

Infact, the only reason for not using him that would be acceptable is if he'd got injured warming up on the sidelines after the game had already started, and therefore too late to take him out of the 17.

Unfortunately though, I think we all know it was just another one of the head scratching decisions that Mac has a habbit of making with regards the use of subs and his match day 17. These decisions can be accepted to a degree when things are still going well and we're competing for trophies - but when the brown sticky stuff is hitting the fan, there's no hiding place from such ridiculous decisions.

Really? Think you'll find Hull have only lost two games since early March. Once to you and then last week to Huddersfield. During that run we've won at Wigan, beaten Warrington twice, Cats twice and Saints three times.

That's hardly a statement of not wanting to be top of the league and throwing it away.

To be fair, we have been a bit ropey the last few weeks, but still in a strong position

I think you are reading it out of context.
They lost to Huddersfield when you would have bet on them winning that and probably securing top spot.
Chill mate you are doing well I was simply pointing out that some of the top four have lost games or drawn games they should have won.
No big deal.
I would sooner be in your position than ours.

Its easy to say "the squad needs major surgery" and "big changes needed" the reality is that cannot happen in a salary cap era unless players want to leave.

Sure we can release for eg Delaney but he wont leave for nothing with 2 years of his deal left. We could pay him off but that money would count on our cap and therefore no replacement could be brought in.

Changes can only be made over a period of time. Its not pre-SL when you could sign a replacement and stockpile players.

Yes the coach could go but is he under any pressure from above to leave? I dont think he is.

you don't? you think GH is happy? I know from one of the coaching staff gawwy is bloody unhappy and has let the coaching staff know it. I don't think Brian will be here next year. I think he's going

I have a horrible feeling thay after a 'mutual' realease of Mcdermott, Gawy will take the cheap option and appoint Jimmy Lowes. Watch this space.

David furner is the most mentioned replacement

Im not saying GH is happy im saying I dont think McD's is under pressure from either GH or Caddick at this moment in time and even at this stage he has enough runs on the board for that to remain in their eyes. I cant see GH panicking or anything.

I honestly believe McD has GH's trust and that hasnt changed since the season started.

I agree. It will be a Lowes/Cummings 'dream team'