That's OK then

so its not at all possible that whilst he was trying to roll Graham onto his back whilst clamping the ball, and Graham was trying to roll onto his front to get a quick PTB that it turned into a chicken wing completely inadvertantely?

What?

Don't be ridiculous.

It was planned to every last detail by JJb for the last few months.

He had schematics drawn up at his house with a leading scientist calculating precise angles of collision, velocity and timing.

It's been planned for months.

Sorry, but I've had the same treatment. If it was bad as he made out, there is no way on earth that he would be capable of using his arm to that degree.

Of course it's possible, but I don't think even you believe that's what happened.

I love J.I.M world, everything is so black and white

Penalty count was 11 - 7 in Leeds' favour tonight.

I agree St Helens were more indisciplined than Leeds on the night and it's about time the RFL sorted them out.

I dont believe any team would purposfully go out with it in mind to chicken wing an opposition player.

From that, I dont believe JJB purposfully chicken winged Graham, it was, in my opinion, an unlucky set of circumstances.

I've already said it didn't look good on tele but that doesnt mean it was done on purpose.

They could put that clip on the "100 great chicken wings" dvd and it would be in places 1-100.

Top game though, loved it

I am! Although another thread is discussing this. (In the 'Is this costly' thread)
Other leeds fans are commenting that the same strategy worked in previous years. It was Bailey on another match.

Yes I am angry.........Although I'm not a natural brainless troller. I'm just fed up of going down to a game levelled by illegal play and allowed to get away with it.
Game after game after game

Most of saints penalties were innocous things like offsides.

Leeds were very niggly.

Punches, grapples (webbs on eastmon was as bad a grapple as you will see) and the chicken wing.

You must admit we were abit ''dirty'' tonight.

James Graham was totally marked out of the game today. Every time he got the ball he was going no where. Didnt see the JJB incident but been told it was pretty nasty.

jjb tackle was a total disgrace

Whether it was deliberate or not the Saints players thought it was deliberate. That and the Senior/Wilkin incident doesn't make for a harmonious England camp come the 4 nations.

It wasnt a harmonious camp anyway no matter was TS was saying on Sky commentary.

Senior wont be a part of it, thankfully for Wilkin

Doesn't help when the England skipper bangs on about hating Saints players (see someone's sig).

Having said that, Wilkin would be nowhere near my England team, even as a Saints fan.

why, senior won't be there? (granted he's still the best english centre in the league, but he's retired from internationals)

because the incident aggravated the animosity of both teams to each other.

So, because he was ok, it makes the tackle ok?

RL props don't shout in pain unless they're in bloody pain, and try getting someone to bend your upper arm the wrong way. Trust me, you'll soon tell them to stop.

See my post on your own forum (it's probably been moderated by now)

You don't suffer a chicken wing tackle like that and retain the ability to throw a long pass within a few minutes. I know, I've been there - playing both prop and hooker

which needs to be an on field thing only, if some players can't let go once the game is over, then they shouldn't be in the england camp.

Yes you do.

This is what I thought in real time. In slow motion, it looked worse. 1 match at most.

I wanted Eastmond to get a crack!