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| I have been browsing on here for a while now and decided to register re this paul mcshane thread..my son plays for rhinos U16S and we have heard the club are trying to sign a young 16 year old hooker from hull fc who was selected for England called Bradley parker.i saw this lad play for England v france and what a talent..fast.strong and clever and scored 2..
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| Quote ="rhino71"I have been browsing on here for a while now and decided to register re this paul mcshane thread..my son plays for rhinos U16S and we have heard the club are trying to sign a young 16 year old hooker from hull fc who was selected for England called Bradley parker.i saw this lad play for England v france and what a talent..fast.strong and clever and scored 2..'"
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| Quote ="rhino71"I have been browsing on here for a while now and decided to register re this paul mcshane thread..my son plays for rhinos U16S and we have heard the club are trying to sign a young 16 year old hooker from hull fc who was selected for England called Bradley parker.i saw this lad play for England v france and what a talent..fast.strong and clever and scored 2..'"
That would be strange. I posted on the other thread the other day, that I was told by a top yorkshire scout on Monday that Leeds already have a young player for hooker Morgan Smith, who this scout said would be amazed if he wasn't a full international by 19. Said he already plays above his age groups.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"That would be strange. I posted on the other thread the other day, that I was told by a top yorkshire scout on Monday that Leeds already have a young player for hooker Morgan Smith, who this scout said would be amazed if he wasn't a full international by 19. Said he already plays above his age groups.
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All I know is this kid played 9 for England at morgans age and he couldn't get the starting 9 place..
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| Quote ="rhino71"All I know is this kid played 9 for England at morgans age and he couldn't get the starting 9 place..'"
I am led to believe Morgan actually plays a few positions, but this scout says hooker will be the one he cements. I believe he might be only 15 now though.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I am led to believe Morgan actually plays a few positions, but this scout says hooker will be the one he cements. I believe he might be only 15 now though.'"
With him been 15 he cant sign a deal till he leaves school in a years time.this parker kid I believe is hull fc captain and top scored for England over 3 international games.my son says he is an outstanding player
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| Welcome Rhinos71!
Will be interesting to see if young Smith does break through or if we do actually sign Parker.
JC-Re Mcshane i think he's a decent 9 and has abetter distribution than RB and adds a very good option for as a kicker.
Now i agree last week he was awful and this call by Mc on its merits is the right one but when we see your hero Lummox getting into the 17 week in week out irrespective of performance that's where it gets questioned even more so when we don't have a recognised 9 in the squad.
JP ,Sinfield ,Hall ,Delaney ,Jjb ,Burrow( starting at 7 or bench at 9) are the only ones i think who are undroppable with Possibly Hardaker and Watkins the rest imo are fair game and should know their spot is under threat and on this seasons form i include Mags.
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| Quote ="rhino71"With him been 15 he cant sign a deal till he leaves school in a years time.this parker kid I believe is hull fc captain and top scored for England over 3 international games.my son says he is an outstanding player'"
So regards to both these prospects we would be looking at 3+ years before we see them play SL on a regulat / semni regular basis IF they both continue in the fashion they are going at present. Funny thing is at that age the body matures differently and players can appear to be a big step above the other players, but given a couple of years are caught up and become much the same. Would be great to see them come through further but although you can say, this kid has great potential, unlike football, rugby requires some size that may come or go depending on their own body growth.
Lets bring Lunt back on a 3 yr deal and then se where these lads are?
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Welcome Rhinos71!
Will be interesting to see if young Smith does break through or if we do actually sign Parker.
JC-Re Mcshane i think he's a decent 9 and has abetter distribution than RB and adds a very good option for as a kicker.
Now i agree last week he was awful and this call by Mc on its merits is the right one but when we see your hero Lummox getting into the 17 week in week out irrespective of performance that's where it gets questioned even more so when we don't have a recognised 9 in the squad.
JP ,Sinfield ,Hall ,Delaney ,Jjb ,Burrow( starting at 7 or bench at 9) are the only ones i think who are undroppable with Possibly Hardaker and Watkins the rest imo are fair game and should know their spot is under threat and on this seasons form i include Mags.'"
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| You may face off against your hooker for next year tonight ..... ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| paul aiton? always liked him. quick, tough. niot sure about his passing off the ground mind
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| Quote ="tad rhino"paul aiton? always liked him. quick, tough. niot sure about his passing off the ground mind'"
He's a cracking player.
And just a whisper I'm hearing.
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| always did like him. always looks good whenever I see wakey playing.
a 'proper' no 9 too
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"Benchman?? Who you on about now?
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Thought we agreed not to talk about Bailey?
Quote ="thebloodbath"You won't find me waxing lyrical over McShane but I appreciate the technically demanding position being hooker commands. At the moment we are playing without out one.....so we are into new ground into how effective we will be.
Burrow has looked stronger this season when reverting back to his natural position of scrum half (with him always being on hand to scoot from dummy half anyway which is a massive asset).
As for Sinfield, he's a skilled pro. I'm sure he would dig in there. But we may miss his signature passes and places in the hot-bed of the attacking line.
The jury is out.'"
I fully agree that Burrow is better at 7 but I think he is much maligned at 9. Of course he isn't the identikit of a typical 9 but rather like Sinfield is not the typical 6 the coaches have found ways to keep their best players on the field for the maximum time with so far good results. Most of the other sides and coaches really fear Burrow at 9 or 7 because he is a match winner and even when not making clean breaks he takes out so many defenders and wears them out.
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| Like it or not we miss Paul tonight but we still got the win better team would of kill us
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| Aiton was pretty good last night but come on he is no where near what we need , in general he runs up more blind alleys than most and his passing is awfull . On the Mcshane issue why Leeds have kept him is beyond me , our coach has never rated him , he is not good enough in defence whatever he brings to the attack and Widnes wanted him. The ideal way forward was Mcshane to Widnes and Lunt to stay at Leeds if someone can give me the real reason this did not happen i would be gratefull to hear it .
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| ££££ ploinerrhino!
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| Guessed that in some form , but was it Widnes who would not match Leeds figure for Mcshane or his wages or Leeds who would not match Huddersfields figure or Lunts wages , because at the end of the day BIG MAC has never wanted little mac at Leeds so unless there was a massive gulf in the figures then it seems a strange one to me that we are supposedly back in the running to sign Lunt for next year given that his value must have gone up with this seasons performances
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"Guessed that in some form , but was it Widnes who would not match Leeds figure for Mcshane or his wages or Leeds who would not match Huddersfields figure or Lunts wages , because at the end of the day BIG MAC has never wanted little mac at Leeds so unless there was a massive gulf in the figures then it seems a strange one to me that we are supposedly back in the running to sign Lunt for next year given that his value must have gone up with this seasons performances'"
The chance to sign Lunt has already slipped through our fingers I'm afraid. That ship has long since sailed due to the fact we offered the lad no where near what he was already on at the giants. If the figures banded about on here at the time were true (as opposed to just simple rumour......as this latest one about us still getting Lunt for next season is) then I'm hardly surprised he stayed at the Giants, as if the rumour is/was true, our offer to him was an insult.
Given his form this year and the fact McShane has still not made the 9 role his own, I bet its a decision the club have regretted ever since.
IIRC Lunt has still 2 more years to go on his contract so IMO we have no chance of signing him before then and given how happy he is where he is now and how well the Giants are doing...why would he want to leave.
For all intents and purposes we had him. He had fallen out of love with the game at the Giants, came here and won a GF ring, settled in with the lads, wanted to stay with us but I think GH tried to use those factors to get him on the cheap and it backfired big time.
IMO had we made him a sensible offer he was ours
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| It is a difficult one as we try and use the fact that players could earn more money elsewhere but we win trophies tactic which has proved correct.
But there will come a time when that wont be the case and good players will slip through our fingers and we will be left with players who used to be good.
A club like Leeds should be able to spend a bit now and then to get the right piece to fit the jigsaw.
I can not believe we are anywhere near our full cap or have been for the past couple of years.
If Lunt was the right man we should have got him same goes for Clark at Cas.
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| couple of years? i'm not sure we have ever been near the cap.
but we should be
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To win more GF rings because he'll win nothing with Huddersfield Giants!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Where does this insistence come from that Leeds ever had chance to discuss terms with Lunt?
He was a contracted Huddersfield player. Unless Leeds had first agreed a fee with Huddersfield (unlikely, certainly once Anderson took over given his high regard for Lunt) they shouldn't have been talking terms with the player at all.
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| [urlhttp://m.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/leeds-rhinos/loanee-lunt-wants-permanent-leeds-rhinos-job-1-5002524[/url
Lunt says he wanted his manager to sort something out with GH
That could suggest that a fee between the clubs had already been agreed
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| This problem with the hooking berth should have been sorted out months ago. I would expect this to be the number one priority once the season is complete . In the meantime now the business end of the season is looming I hope this positional problem does not cause us to miss out on another grand final win. Or even getting to old trafford .
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