I would take the comment from Salford fans about Lui a good defender with a pinch of salt. We have seen plenty of matches with him, and I would say he is a very long way from being a good defender. Infact I would not be surprised in the slightest if his stats were not much different to someone like Myler from a defensive point of view. Of course in the large half backs are your weakest link in the defensive line, and hence why they are pushed out wide, and why the oppossition run at them often to tire them out.

I am not saying that makes the signing any less or more worthwhile, but I doubt you will see a good defender in that shirt from Lui.

I guess all we can be certain of is that he'll be a better defender than Lolohea...

Myler has made 282 tackles and missed 72

Lui has made 309 and missed 67

Tui has made 143 and missed 43

Make of that what you will.

Pretty much what I expected to be honest. Pretty similar Myler and Lui, and to be fair we have been under the cosh a lot more than Salford have in the defensive stakes. So as you were, not what I would call good in either regards.

Im more interested whether he can put some decent kicks in and get decent ball to our centres to be honest

lunt will help in that regard I hope.

30% miss rate for Tui is appalling.

Lui 21% miss aprox 1-5 misses
Myler 26% approx 1-4 missed
Lolohea 30% aporox 1-3 missed

Myler may miss a few more but never moves out off the way like Tui,

Good riddance to maybe the out worse signing in the super league era.

Beau Falloon would still be the worst for mine TBH. There have been several contenders.

Looking at Myler’s stats is another reason to let him go because they’re not good at all either.

Joe vickery was the worst signing. No question.

No, Vickery was a chancer flying himself over for a trial. Lolohea was signed as a starting half with the vision of him taking the team forward.

True - you've got to compare like with like.

Lolohea vs Falloon is probably line-ball for me - both bad signings in key positions. Both also showed a complete lack of research from Leeds - Falloon had long since stopped focusing on being a professional rugby player and was part of the Gold Coast glee club, and Lolohea wasn't playing 6 or even in first grade when we signed him and was a long way overweight. These weren't secrets - 5 minute conversations with the right people and we'd never have gone near either of them.

Assuming those were both GH calls, he definitely needs to pass that baton to someone else.

Well it’s a bit of a pointless conversation. But yes vickery came on a trial, but then we signed him on a one year contract. Therefore I would class him a signing. He also played as many games as falloon, so it wasn’t like he never played. I’m just saying simply, Vickey was signed by Leeds and he was the worst player I’ve ever seen play for Leeds. You can add in other variables if you’d like to, ie was he signed as a starter etc. But like I say bit of a pointless convo anyway.

Suppose I’m saying, he’s the worst player ever to sign for Leeds. However, I can see how you’d argue tui is a worse signing, as vickery’s presence had minimum damage, where as tui’s could see us relegated.

Tui is old news now anyway - let's hope Rob Lui can perform well and fill in some missing links in the side.
In fairness he doesn't have to set the world on fire to still offer much more than we've had at 6 all year does he?

Lui is a decent player but unless he gets the players around him creating options and uncertainty in the defence he wont be the saviour you need. At salford they are pretty organised and move the ball about well which helps any half back look good

Lui being a decent player automatically elevates him above what We’ve got

The fear is it becomes a shut Lui shut Leeds down scenario. He is a fine runner of the ball but doesn't strike me as a fantastic creator or organiser.

Again he's a better creator, organiser, kicker etc than what we had.

The problem is he could have a quiet but steady game on Sunday but will quickly be hailed as a failure by some, anything less than a MOM and game winning try will have people calling for his head!

I suspect if he gets MoM and game winning try people will still call him a flop cos he hasn't lead us to a 40 point win but will praise Dwyer for running sideways past him for 80 mins.

We really are going to have to play disciplined and not invite a big side to run at us too much.

Whenever we played Salford, the player I feared most was Lui. He ripped us apart on several occasions.

Lui is excellent in the opposition 20m zone, something we badly need.

Looks like were adding Rhyse Martin to the mix from Canterbury Bulldogs. 2 yr deal agreed and release from The Doggies granted.

Goal kicking PNG 2nd rower.

How would Martin count on the quotas? Isn't it slightly different if he's from PNG?