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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Even if you had to pay through the nose in terms of a transfer fee and salary?
Sadly in the real world these sorts of concerns get in the way of playing Fantasy Super League...'"
There is no transfer fee. He is OOC. Otherwise I would have agreed with you.
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| Quote ="Eccleshill Rhino"For the good of game, his profile in the game, and the England side he needs to play in a better side with better players - realistically where has he got more chance of playing in GFs and internationals - staying in London or moving north to Leeds?'"
How does having all the best players concentrated at one or two clubs do anything to enhance the good of the game either in London or elsewhere? We went down that route in the early 90s, I don't recall it as a halcyon period for rugby league.
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| Quote ="Trimalchio"I think you mean sycophantic.'"
Correct - should refrain from using long words in the future
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| Quote ="DISA"There is no transfer fee. He is OOC. Otherwise I would have agreed with you.'"
He is not OOC at the present though. We'd need a small fee if we were to sign him this instant.
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| Quote ="Trimalchio"He is not OOC at the present though. We'd need a small fee if we were to sign him this instant.'"
true but i dont think anyone said get him in now.
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| Quote ="Trimalchio"He is not OOC at the present though. We'd need a small fee if we were to sign him this instant.'"
I wasnt' suggesting we should get him in now, and I very much doubt the Bulls would release.
But we were talking about instead of Kylie. If he was not OOC I would not have suggested it.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"How does having all the best players concentrated at one or two clubs do anything to enhance the good of the game either in London or elsewhere? We went down that route in the early 90s, I don't recall it as a halcyon period for rugby league.'"
It depends on how you view the game - for me player development is very high on that list - I want to be entertained by players playing to their potential will Scarbrook ever reach his true potential if he stays in London or will he improve if he joins a squad of better players that challenges him to improve?
Concentration of top players in a small number of clubs doesn't seem to have harmed Chavball - are we better at international level than we were when Wigan dominated the game? We may have a more competitive league but do we have a better quality league?
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| Quote ="DISA"I wasnt' suggesting we should get him in now, and I very much doubt the Bulls would release.
But we were talking about instead of Kylie. If he was not OOC I would not have suggested it.'"
we could get him as well as keeping kylie! offer a player or players in with the deal!
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| Quote ="Eccleshill Rhino"It depends on how you view the game - for me player development is very high on that list - I want to be entertained by players playing to their potential will Scarbrook ever reach his true potential if he stays in London or will he improve if he joins a squad of better players that challenges him to improve?'"
I've yet to see any evidence of him not developing at Quins - he's in the 17 every week when fit and has an ideal coach to both develop his game as a front row forward and as a professional on and off the field.
Being at Salford similarly doesn't seem to be hampering Richie Myler's development or representative oppportunities.
The biggest indicator towards a player's development IMO is not the quality he plays with, but the quality of coaching he receives.
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| Quote ="DISA"I wasnt' suggesting we should get him in now, and I very much doubt the Bulls would release.
But we were talking about instead of Kylie. If he was not OOC I would not have suggested it.'"
With the anti-tamper deadline still months away there would be little chance of us announcing it yet even if we did sign him. I think its clear that another forward is needed, as I think that is where the root of our problems has been this season
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| I think 2 years is a strange one, when looked at in combination with his form/matchtime this season.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"I've yet to see any evidence of him not developing at Quins - he's in the 17 every week when fit and has an ideal coach to both develop his game as a front row forward and as a professional on and off the field.
Being at Salford similarly doesn't seem to be hampering Richie Myler's development or representative oppportunities.
The biggest indicator towards a player's development IMO is not the quality he plays with, but the quality of coaching he receives.'"
agree with plenty of that but i think it is important for these lads to play in the biggest games we have(the bigger play off games and the gf). as we dont have an origin style comp or a tough test mid season, these players dont really get a chance to play high level intence rugby.
eg purdham looked a bag of nerves and out of his depth in the semi final of the WC! and for mine was probably the worst player in that game and that took some doing. he's normally on the beach by mid september. he has little chance to play in anything like a big game season on season.
i realise other players were crap for england in the WC and playing in a GF doesnt make you a great player but i think lads like myler and scarsbrook need to be playing in the biggest games to become the best they can.
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"With the anti-tamper deadline still months away there would be little chance of us announcing it yet even if we did sign him. I think its clear that another forward is needed, as I think that is where the root of our problems has been this season'"
agreed
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| Quote ="Eccleshill Rhino"It depends on how you view the game - for me player development is very high on that list - I want to be entertained by players playing to their potential will Scarbrook ever reach his true potential if he stays in London or will he improve if he joins a squad of better players that challenges him to improve?
Concentration of top players in a small number of clubs doesn't seem to have harmed Chavball - are we better at international level than we were when Wigan dominated the game?
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We may have a more competitive league but do we have a better quality league?'"
No
And how is extending the contract of another geriatric going to help Leeds?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"No
And how is extending the contract of another geriatric going to help Leeds?'"
And how has throwing money at B rate foreigners helped you of late?
H-T-H
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| Happy that hes signed.
Cant see the announcement for Lee Smith being too far away now.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"No
And how is extending the contract of another geriatric going to help Leeds?'"
You mean back to back championship winning geriatric???
He does just fine for us, how's over-paying the like's of bailey,phelps,o'loughlin and fielden helped wigan????????????
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| Quote ="Eccleshill Rhino"For the good of game, his profile in the game, and the England side he needs to play in a better side with better players - realistically where has he got more chance of playing in GFs and internationals - staying in London or moving north to Leeds?'"
I don't think you can assume a kid from Lewisham has a burning desire to live in West Yorkshire, so he may have no wish to come here. I'd imagine he would be pretty happy with the coaching he is getting from Brian McDermott as well.
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| after his game times this year, he must have a bloody good agent
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| Quote ="Frosties."Happy that hes signed.
Cant see the announcement for Lee Smith being too far away now.'"
Which one is 'Adam Rhinos/Kallum Watkins left boot' these days?
Didn't he confidently predict that Smith had player his last game for Leeds while he was out injured?
Memories fading fast.
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| Reasonbly pleased He's signed as there seems to a shortage of decent props available.
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| Its a poor deal at 2.5 years, not sure a guy that plays 20 mins every week at 31 years of age is going to contribute much more at 33 years old.
Another GH insult the fans call, my god offering Diskin a five year deal would be the only equivilent in stupidity, oh hang on...............done that already.
Ok
I go with offering a softcock winger who turns his back in the ultimate act of cowerdice on a Rugby Field, oh hang on.....................done that as well.
Next thing they will put the prices up at Headingley for standing on a terrace with no cover, erm, you get my point!!
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| Personally I think the worst contract extensions Leeds have committed recently was for Burrow & McGuire's to expire at the same time. There should have been a year apart. Probably McGuire a year more as he seems more stable whereas Burrow could lose pace and if head injuries persist there could be problems. Not saying they shouldn't both have long contracts but to possibly lose both half backs at the end of one season would be a huge blow and that year will be make or break in terms of do we kick on from there and continue to be a success or do we fall away a bit for a few years, like Wigan.
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| Quote ="Richie Ramrod"Its a poor deal at 2.5 years, not sure a guy that plays 20 mins every week at 31 years of age is going to contribute much more at 33 years old.
Another GH insult the fans call, my god offering Diskin a five year deal would be the only equivilent in stupidity, oh hang on...............done that already.
Ok
I go with offering a softcock winger who turns his back in the ultimate act of cowerdice on a Rugby Field, oh hang on.....................done that as well.
Next thing they will put the prices up at Headingley for standing on a terrace with no cover, erm, you get my point!!'"
we really are a shi[it[/ie team,why don't you stay at home in future,or stop fkin whinging.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"we really are a shi[it[/ie team,why don't you stay at home in future,or stop fkin whinging.'"
So all the points above are wrong then are they?
Why dont you put a more solid argument together? Do you agree Kylie should have got a 2.5 year contract?
Diskin 5 years?
Donald on form, he's only had one goos season FFS!!
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I will watch who I want thanks, unless the red tones of the communist USSR have appeared outside my window this morning.................... ![Razz icon_razz.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_razz.gif)
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