Still rather lose in a final than in a semi. That said if I knew in advance that Leeds weren't going to win the comp I'd probably rather lose in the first round of matches. Trouble is you only really find out it's not going to be your year ...... again ........ when it's all over.

Quality player for whom I have the upmost respect.

6 losing finals now for Kev breaking an unwanted record. Had he been picked in 2000 it would be 7. And judging by his reaction it doesn't get any easier.

Incidentally this is his 16th season in the first team. A quite incredible record for a man who is fast becoming a Leeds legend who only John Holmes can be mentioned in the same breath as. Can he make it 20?

You've got me thinking now (and I hate thinking) but shouldn't that be just the five losing finals for Sinfield - 2003, 2005, 2010, 2011, 2012.

Yes and I had realised and was going to edit it & decided I'd let you har your moment!

It shares the record with Paul Laughlin (sp?) IIRC

My heart goes out to him.

All those trophies with Leeds but he's not yet won the one that counts. Like Ivan Lendl could never win Wimbledon.

I agree with the sentiment though Sir Kev has been a great ambassador for RL and with his longevity at the top I think he is overtaking Farrell and Scully as the greatest SL player of modern times.

Sweet. And I don't even need cheering up tonight what with Leeds re-writing the Challenge Cup and Wembley final history books.

This truely is a record-breaking time for the club and this excellent group of players - both good and not so good, that is if reaching finals can ever be termed as such. I'm sure there will be plenty of other teams who would just like to make a final ..... any final.

The pain was less in 2007 - 2009 than 2010 - 2012 but as you said earlier, we forever live in hope that it will be our year!

I missed 2000 & 2011 but my attendance or lack of seems irrelevant. There isn't even a pattern to it for me to over analyse!!!

Maybe it will be lucky '13 next year!

Hmmm disagree with you there.

CC would undoubtedly be the completion of his success but the grand final wins are the ones that are the biggest.

Warrington surely know that after last year.

I think there was more than a hint of sarcasm there!

That 'sally' geezer often posts with his tongue firmly in his cheek when over here and there's nowt wrong with that.

Oh dear.....

Oh dear what?

That was from a Warrington fan by the way.

In terms of SL I might have Peacock in front of him.

As a Leeds legend of recent times he stands alone

I'd rather we get knocked out in the first round and have the weeks off. We'll just end up like saints with the grand final, always losing it. 3 on the bounce, and counting!! Can we make it 4 next year?