That’s down to Oledsjki not being fit and missing Martin (outstanding last week in defence) and Bentley (he’s very very good on his day). It also stands out like a sore thumb the lack of another good prop.

We didn't look soft in the first 20 either. But we weakened when we did our rotations. Donaldson and Thompson on together is a big no

Yep that’s the big thing for me. I actually didn’t expect to win tonight but I did expect a good performance and a close game. Not good. Not good at all.

Correct, certain players on display tonight definitely not up for it. Big chance next week to redeem themselves. Personally I think we will win.

Its a real good test of the players next week, ill be extra disappointed if there isn’t a positive reaction from them.

Even if we lose it isn’t season over despite what some on here think.

The reaction is key for me

This maybe a minor point...How many times do we handover poession by running it last tackle close to their line. Dumb AF and I wish we'd be cleverer.

Like Ryan Hall

Gutted with that performance. First 20ish good but where was the kicking game? Tindal going into touch big moment momentum wise but thought we didn't look like we could be d after half time. Interesting Wilkins comments about the halves not being up for it before kick off

Just rewatched the first half, tindall should have come in field a bit then tried to take field on the outside but he will learn and its easy to say watching on the tv.

Id be absolutely livid if i was Agar with their first try, we just stood there and let field pick up the ball and run and put it down.

That’s schoolboy stuff.

Although i got the feeling from agars presser he is absolutely livid about a few things.

Just as an aside as This wouldn’t affect the result or anything but how has thaler given powell his try? He’s off side and he knees the ball out of walkers hand?

Do me a favour. Lean forward and stick your leg out behind you. Now look at your shoulder. If you think that it's behind your back foot then I suggest you get down to the doctor's asap as there's something seriously wrong with you!

The ball went backwards off Bibby's arm (otherwise it couldn't have hit his outstretched back foot) so there was no knock on in the first place. The VR got the decision right, albeit for the wrong reason.

Won't dwell on the performance because I think it's pretty much all been said. One thing that really stood out was the importance of speed. Wigan have a player in Field ( they also have another one in French if he ever comes back) who has the ability to win a game in the blink of an eye. We have not addressed this in our recruitment and have compounded it in our retention be extending plodders like Sutcliffe and Briscoe. I was surprised we chose to give Myler another contract - despite his renaissance at Full Back - for exactly this reason. We desperately need a player who can go the length of the field and while we don't have one, we'll be very vulnerable to sides who have. Worth remembering that if Tindall had been playing for Wigan he would have scored that long range try because we wouldn't have had a player to catch him. Speed wins games both in attack and defence. The likes of Burrow, McGuire, Webb and Donald demonstrated this to spectacular effect not so many years ago. The club needs to address this.

What are Donaldson and Thompson in the modern game? Not back rowers or props, at best they might get away with being industrious 13s but we don't need 2 or even 3 of those. We are basically trying to play with 1 prop when the interchanges happen.

You got a whole season of Blake Austin in one game last night, the amazing dummy I cant believe wigan fell for, and him being lazy and not killing that ball from the flukey kick.

As most people have said after last weeks performance its the manner of the defeat that was the biggest concern. We were in control until conceding a fluke try and then mentally completely dropped off. We allowed Wigan to contantly look to offload and failed to dominate in the tackle. Bateman and Farrell both showed more intelligence and aggression than any of our back row options. Oledski clearly not fit and as everyone has said we clearly missing another prop. Hopefully Newman and Fusitua back for Catalans plus I would have O Connor on the bench as his workrate and attitude is first class both of which were lacking by a few in the 2nd half at Wigan