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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"Quota space for who?'"
Who knows, remember Parcell was signed for next season so its not just about this year
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| Quote ="christopher"Can loan players play against the teams they are on loan from?'"
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"Quota space for who?'"
Whoever may be lined up for now or next season as Parcell is contracted to end of 2020.
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| In a change to the usual protocol, Leeds have asked to include a clause in Lolohea's Salford contract, insisting that he plays against us 
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| Quote ="The Magic Rat"In a change to the usual protocol, Leeds have asked to include a clause in Lolohea's Salford contract, insisting that he plays against us
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That’s hilarious - am a Wakefield fan but nearly wet myself !
Being serious despite our injury led implosion seems to me you could have best backs in world and with way your packs being playing wouldn’t make much difference. Going to be very tight down bottom at end of year -
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| Quote ="The Magic Rat"In a change to the usual protocol, Leeds have asked to include a clause in Lolohea's Salford contract, insisting that he plays against us
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Good one I like it  whilst I'm gutted we are losing Rob I can take some comfort from knowing he will be playing alongside Myler  (Rob you do realise just what you've done ) ? whilst your lardy ar*e will have JH to make him look good. 
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"Whoever may be lined up for now or next season as Parcell is contracted to end of 2020.
Would be nice of the Sezer rumour is true and it is happening now.'"
I’m not sure of the rules here. It looks like we’ve effectively got Parcell off the books for 2020 - imagine if HKR stay up he’ll sign for them then. If not then then either another SL club or Aus maybe.
However that would mean that we had no extra overseas spots available for 2019 technically, as Parcell is on loan but contracted to Leeds.
If I’m reading this right, another overseas player would have to be shifted (properly) in order for us to add Sezer or any other overseas heritage player.
This might be it for 2019.
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"I’m not sure of the rules here. It looks like we’ve effectively got Parcell off the books for 2020 - imagine if HKR stay up he’ll sign for them then. If not then then either another SL club or Aus maybe.
However that would mean that we had no extra overseas spots available for 2019 technically, as Parcell is on loan but contracted to Leeds.
If I’m reading this right, another overseas player would have to be shifted (properly) in order for us to add Sezer or any other overseas heritage player.
This might be it for 2019.'"
Pete smith confirmed that they are loan deals with no intention to return.
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| That reading doesn't make sense. If it did you could sign 20 overseas players on loan and none would count on quota as they'd stay on the quota of their 'parent' clubs.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"That reading doesn't make sense. If it did you could sign 20 overseas players on loan and none would count on quota as they'd stay on the quota of their 'parent' clubs.'"
Surely the quota applies to whichever club holds the contract of employment? Or are the players registered with the loaning club and the quota works on that?
Don't forget HKR couldn't move for Parcell until Vaivai had re-contracted to Toulouse first. So I think it is the contracting parties that count - and therefore I think we couldn't bring any more overseas players in without another swap deal or without somehow terminating the contract of an existing overseas player (so we pay Cuthbo off and he retires through injury, for example).
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| But you're arguing that parcel is quota for kr and Leeds aren't you? Otherwise how does his loan require vavai to leave and yet his leaving hasn't freed up a spot for us?
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"But you're arguing that parcel is quota for kr and Leeds aren't you? Otherwise how does his loan require vavai to leave and yet his leaving hasn't freed up a spot for us?'"
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| Cuthbo has a British passport I think. So he doesnt count on OQ. Only NFT.
I believe with Tui and Parcell gone and Lui arriving we currently have 3 OQ and 6 NFT. So that leaves one spot for an OQ NFT player.
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| Quote ="Rhinoshaund III"Cuthbo has a British passport I think. So he doesnt count on OQ. Only NFT.
I believe with Tui and Parcell gone and Lui arriving we currently have 3 OQ and 6 NFT. So that leaves one spot for an OQ NFT player.'"
That is correct. Cuthbertson, Peteru and Hurrell only count as NFT.
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| Isn't Peteru OQ and NFT because he was born in NZ so that means we only have one OQ spot and NFT spot left
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| Quote ="Jrrhino"Isn't Peteru OQ and NFT because he was born in NZ so that means we only have one OQ spot and NFT spot left
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Albert doesn't count as either this season.
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His parents are from Samoa and Cook Islands so he has a passport from a kolpak nation, meaning only NFT.
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| So Was Lolohea OQ and NFT or just NFT because he was born in NZ but could represent Tonga were any of his parents Tongan or did he qualify through Tonga through grandparents ?
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| Back on Topic for a moment Ian Watson`s thoughts :--
`“I do feel saddened by him leaving us here at the club, but he will do well over at Leeds and he’s doing what’s best for his family. I wish him and his family all the best and happiness in the future.”
Those among you who had a go over the last few days should note this comment - he is a very, very good player. Up to Myler now to deliver a service.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"Back on Topic for a moment Ian Watson`s thoughts :--
`“I do feel saddened by him leaving us here at the club, but he will do well over at Leeds and he’s doing what’s best for his family. I wish him and his family all the best and happiness in the future.”
Those among you who had a go over the last few days should note this comment - he is a very, very good player. Up to Myler now to deliver a service.'"
Seems very popular amongst the players too - maybe we’ve got ourselves a good one there. He looks pretty physical too and hopefully can defend.
I think Myler’s got to go now. The club has signalled intent with signing two new halves - if you were the existing senior half you’d see a message in that.
Whether he finds another club for 2020 or battles it out with us remains to be seen but his future lies elsewhere.
It’s quite significant this signing. It has facilitated Tui leaving. It gives us much greater threat from the halves (and less weakness). It also pushes Sutcliffe out to battle with better back rowers than him, unless he shifts Myler for his goal kicking ability. Either way one of Myler or Sutcliffe should drop out of the 17 IMO, or certainly the starting side.
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| Jackson Hastings on Lui
"Rugby League man. What a crazy game, Owe a lot to this guy honestly helped me more then he’d even know. So naturally gifted it’s not even funny, All the best to you and your family brother it’s been an absolute pleasure! I’d say Salford’s best ever. "
I think people are maybe underestimating Lui, I hope so anyway
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"Seems very popular amongst the players too - maybe we’ve got ourselves a good one there. He looks pretty physical too and hopefully can defend.
I think Myler’s got to go now. The club has signalled intent with signing two new halves - if you were the existing senior half you’d see a message in that.
Whether he finds another club for 2020 or battles it out with us remains to be seen but his future lies elsewhere.
It’s quite significant this signing. It has facilitated Tui leaving. It gives us much greater threat from the halves (and less weakness). It also pushes Sutcliffe out to battle with better back rowers than him, unless he shifts Myler for his goal kicking ability. Either way one of Myler or Sutcliffe should drop out of the 17 IMO, or certainly the starting side.'"
very good defender according to Salford fans
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| Quote ="christopher"Jackson Hastings on Lui
"Rugby League man. What a crazy game, Owe a lot to this guy honestly helped me more then he’d even know. So naturally gifted it’s not even funny, All the best to you and your family brother it’s been an absolute pleasure! I’d say Salford’s best ever. "
I think people are maybe underestimating Lui, I hope so anyway'"
Don't suppose he added "In fact I'm so keen to continue to learn from him and play with him that I'm going to commit my future to Leeds without an NRL get out clause"?
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| Quote ="HRS Rhino"Don't suppose he added "In fact I'm so keen to continue to learn from him and play with him that I'm going to commit my future to Leeds without an NRL get out clause"?'"
No but plenty of needy Leeds fans asking him to on SM!
There is still a chance but Leeds are going to have to pull their socks up and fight out of the relegation zone first, that's the reality.
We do that, we suddenly become a very desirable place for players to come with our stadium, fan base and talent coming through the juniors.
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| Quote ="christopher"Jackson Hastings on Lui
"Rugby League man. What a crazy game, Owe a lot to this guy honestly helped me more then he’d even know. So naturally gifted it’s not even funny, All the best to you and your family brother it’s been an absolute pleasure! I’d say Salford’s best ever. "
I think people are maybe underestimating Lui, I hope so anyway'"
He's being underestimated because he plays for Salford and like it or loathe it fans of the big 4 inherently look down on us. Lui is a cracking player and one of the best defensive halves in the league for me.
As for Hastings, I'm not sure he'd sign for Leeds. He's openly stated his desire to go back to the NRL after next season so (unless you offer him stupid money) I can only see him moving elsewhere in SL for a genuine chance of silverware. With all due respect Leeds ain't gonna be challenging for silverware next year (unless you count the Championship shield as silverware?  ).
If anywhere it'll be Wigan but I hope he sees the potential in the squad Watson is pulling together for next season and gives us another year. Despite our $hit crowds etc he has a genuine affinity with the Salford fans as well not forgetting living and playing alongside his best mate Joey Lussick.
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| Quote ="SaleSlim"He's being underestimated because he plays for Salford and like it or loathe it fans of the big 4 inherently look down on us. Lui is a cracking player and one of the best defensive halves in the league for me.
As for Hastings, I'm not sure he'd sign for Leeds. He's openly stated his desire to go back to the NRL after next season so (unless you offer him stupid money) I can only see him moving elsewhere in SL for a genuine chance of silverware. With all due respect Leeds ain't gonna be challenging for silverware next year (unless you count the Championship shield as silverware?
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If anywhere it'll be Wigan but I hope he sees the potential in the squad Watson is pulling together for next season and gives us another year. Despite our $hit crowds etc he has a genuine affinity with the Salford fans as well not forgetting living and playing alongside his best mate Joey Lussick.'"
2 more signings, or thereabouts, and Leeds would have as good a chance of silverware next year as Wigan certainly. We're losing another chunk of salary cap for 2020 and there will be more signings.
Good to hear Lui is a solid defender.
There might be something in what you say re. Salford's perception - but then again we signed Keith Senior from Sheffield Eagles and everyone was pretty keen.
It's a shame but I think the reality is that Salford as a club need to cash in some assets. If Leeds are willing to pay a fee for Hastings this year and Wigan aren't, that could have some bearing.
Or, as you say, he might decide to stay with Salford for another year or two. Problem is there is no guarantee an NRL opportunity is going to come up for him either way - the standard of halves over there is way higher than SL in general.
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