FORUMS > Leeds Rhinos > RD 20 | St Helens (A) |
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| Quote: christopher "I disagree on the cunningham comparison, at least we’ve shown we can play attractive winning rugby, saints were just dire all round under cunningham IMO.
Also did Holbrook coincide with Ben Barber signing who totally changed that side'"
The point I was trying to make is that things can change quickly and you won’t be where you are forever. You are too big of a club
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| Quote: christopher "I was thinking this last night, with Newman being injured all the time we are totally lacking an X factor player, most if not all the sides above us have one or in Wigans case 2'"
Yep, tinkering around with the squad will only deliver incremental gains at best. We need one, even two great players. Look at the difference Croft has made to Salford and Hastings before him. Great players make average ones far better.
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| Quote: ArthurClues "Yep, tinkering around with the squad will only deliver incremental gains at best. We need one, even two great players. Look at the difference Croft has made to Salford and Hastings before him. Great players make average ones far better.'"
Completely agree. Even one class player lifts the whole show.
A Ben Barba, Hastings, Field or French type of player much needed ++
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| Just looked at the recording of last nights game. Several passages of play with ball in hand just passing along the line. No dummy runners , very little drop off ball. Certainly nobody attempting to put players through a gap in the line. The league table highlights the fact we have played for most of the season like a mid table side. And that unfortunately is our position in the league.
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| Quote: christopher "It’s not ‘blind faith’ its a pragmatic view of where we are but also not throwing the baby out with the bath water.
We are currently not good enough as a squad but I don’t think we are as far off as is being made out, and people wanting wholesale changes is just not realistic.'"
Are you saying because we beat Saints and Wigan previously that is the basis for your not so far off? I agree about wholesale changes there simply isn't the quality of player available to replace 6/7 players.
We need to concentrate on the spine - we need a FB, one half back at least and a quality hooker - if that is all we did I would happy with that. I don't understand the signing of the Frenchman - unless there are players leaving e.g. Bentley. Tetevano surely will never play again.
Maybe I am misreading the situation but we always seem late in for NRL players and then overpay for what we get. Is it that Leeds are not seen as a competitive side and players can only be coaxed into coming by the money?
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| Quote: Backwoodsman "Just looked at the recording of last nights game. Several passages of play with ball in hand just passing along the line. No dummy runners , very little drop off ball. Certainly nobody attempting to put players through a gap in the line. The league table highlights the fact we have played for most of the season like a mid table side. And that unfortunately is our position in the league.'"
Our attacking philosophy seems based on keeping the ball alive, any pass will do, hoping the opposition over commit for us to attack the space that's left.
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| Quote: TheWarringtonWolve69 "The point I was trying to make is that things can change quickly and you won’t be where you are forever. You are too big of a club'"
Totally agree
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| Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "Are you saying because we beat Saints and Wigan previously that is the basis for your not so far off? I agree about wholesale changes there simply isn't the quality of player available to replace 6/7 players.
We need to concentrate on the spine - we need a FB, one half back at least and a quality hooker - if that is all we did I would happy with that. I don't understand the signing of the Frenchman - unless there are players leaving e.g. Bentley. Tetevano surely will never play again.
Maybe I am misreading the situation but we always seem late in for NRL players and then overpay for what we get. Is it that Leeds are not seen as a competitive side and players can only be coaxed into coming by the money?'"
You’ve answered your own question regards Goudemand.
I’m looking at results and the closeness of some of them and if you read my posts I actually agree with you on the spine, that’s my whole point, we’re a few signings away from being back up there, not that the whole set up needs changing.
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| I was surprised your pack didn't dominate last night. Saints starting pack would normally be, Walmsley, Roby, Lees, Sirronen. Batchelor, Knowles. With a bench of probably Paasi, LMS or Matautia, Bell and Lussick. Not counting Lussick cause he's gone 7 of those were missing.
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| Quote: RogerMoore "I was surprised your pack didn't dominate last night. Saints starting pack would normally be, Walmsley, Roby, Lees, Sirronen. Batchelor, Knowles. With a bench of probably Paasi, LMS or Matautia, Bell and Lussick. Not counting Lussick cause he's gone 7 of those were missing.'"
I’m not, we’ve lost to worse teams than that St Helens one last night. That’s not a criticism of you, it’s just a marker of where we are at the moment.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Until Leeds sort out the top end of their salary cap they are going nowhere fast.
Sezer, Fusitua, Tetavano, Bentley, Austin, Myler - just not top class players.
Letting Walters go is madness.'"
We didn't let Walters go.
He's just gone to a club with much more ambition.
Can't really blame him.
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| Quote: batleyrhino "I’m not, we’ve lost to worse teams than that St Helens one last night. That’s not a criticism of you, it’s just a marker of where we are at the moment.'"
Im not surprised either were a ridiculously unpredictable side in an unpredictable league, there’s been loads of games that on paper should go the way you think for it to go the exact opposite
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| Leeds pack should have dominated but lacked intensity and effort. Knowles and Lees both well over 100m each and 35 tackles apiece plus hit the line hard. Our 5 props added together only marginally achieved the same numbers as the 2 above. That's not good enough notwithstanding our woes in the spine positions.
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| Quote: christopher "Im not surprised either were a ridiculously unpredictable side in an unpredictable league, there’s been loads of games that on paper should go the way you think for it to go the exact opposite'"
Let's not confuse this with being entirely a positive thing though, it frustrates me how RS thinks it is.
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| unpredictable league? excuses excuses excuses. give it a rest we are crap. 8th place, 50% of games lost, trainers cheap option close
believe christopher
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