It's not how you start it's how you finish.Is that the saying? Any team can lose their first game it doesn't automatically mean a failure to prepare.I agree on the conditioning point though.Could you imagine bielsa picking a playing who had shown up 5 kilos over weight? I appreciate some of the big lads have big appetites and find it hard to shed the weight but lui,hurrell and ava have let the club down imo.

Bit harsh in hurrell seeing as he's just lost his mum

He was borderline before that.

There’s no doubt Agar and his staff haven’t done a very good job in getting us ready for the re start but let’s not go over the top with criticism on some of the players. Get behind them and we’ll get back on track. There’s lots of work to do but you can’t knock the squads attitude up to last night.

My thoughts are as follows
It's was a poor performance
Must people accepted we be some way off challenging the season
We've lost by 50 to the team that's streets ahead of the rest, with half a team out

We're about where is expect us to be after the last couple of years debarcles

Even the 2004 Leeds team took a heavy beating to Saints. We'll get past it

So true.
If anyone can find the archive of the meltdown going on in this place from April 30th 2004 or from 9th July 2005 I'll buy them a cardboard cut out of a group of head fans doing a conga in Perpignan.

That 2004 Team was full of home grown talent & good to top quality signings though.
They also had a quality Coach & despite defeats anyone could see there was a very good Team & good planning wrt recruitment & retention.
Just for some comparison Adamson Mcdonald Franny Cummings & Dunneman couldnt get in that 17 all of them walk into our current 1st choice 17.
Also the likes of the Briscoes Evans Lui Crosby Donaldson wouldnt even be at the Club.

Apparently this was our first home nilling in the superleague era. I think that speaks volumes about the current state of this current set up. We looked clueless from start to finish, but worse than that we didn't look bothered about the tonking being dished out to us. I struggle to remember a worse performance.

Weve had far worse performances against a lot worse opposition in the last few years IMO

Can we start an Agar out thread yet or not?

Does anyone actually think we're going to progress forward with Agar as manager? A win here and there isn't going to do it.

He reminds me of Brendan Hill.

"For the live of Allah" etc....etc....etc....