We all know you have an agenda here , and as bad as Buderus and Kirke were on saturday they were better than certain Rhino " legends " who appear to be bombproof to criticism on here .

So did we need Buderus or not? Isn't he supposed to make a difference?

Further evidence that he really has been such a waste of money.

I just wonder why Ryan Bailey wasn't striking fear into anyone who dared cross his path

. What happened.

Did we need him ? Probably not .

Is he supposed to make a difference ? of course he is .

But the chances of him contributing anything significant playing in a front six so brutally outplayed were pretty non-existant wouldnt you say ?

Do I? Pray tell what is it?

What about the other 18 months?

Was this thread as predictable as the myriad of "dismantle the squad" threads we've seen?

Yes.

The Tweedles need some new material.

Badly.

HTH

Pretty much yeah.

Absolutely and whilst i'll back them to be a threat in the play -offs we looked weak on saturday and i personally don't think that can be just put down to who was missing and one of those days.

I think its fair to say that without that superb pass to Webb we prob wouldn't have made it to the CC Final. However, not since Jonathan Davies played at the old wembley for Widnes have I seen a big player choke so obviously in a final. Its funny how the big game big name players sometimes just can't handle a CC Final.

It goes without saying though that is just one game. Buderous has been pretty consistent all year which is more than can be said for many others.

to pick one player out of that rubbish on sat is unfair. Diskin,senior,sinfield and the rest were poor too. Still i suppose thats not part of the agenda.