Quote: Juan Cornetto "No I never asked you to produce links. I asked you to challenge my points with your own argument and a few facts would help too. Name something positive about remaining in the EU without links other peoples opinions. By all means use others links to back up you view if you have one that is. '"
My apologies. It was DHM who asked me to provide links, not you. It's possible to admit where you've been mistaken - watch and learn.
Also, you peculiar man, I was asked to provide links BECAUSE I'd apparently only been offering MY OWN opinions before that. Of course when I link to and analyse an important George Soros piece it's disregarded by you, although I accept his argument have been beyond you.
What's this on page 13? Oh, that's right, it's two positive arguments, which is two more than you've come up with, without any links to your dreaded "experts". Of course, this is one of my few posts that you haven't edited to oblivion in order facilitate your Straw Man arguments, but that's to be expected.
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"Two really key positive arguments, set aside from the clear economics, and also set aside from the 'fear' and the 'speculation' from overwhelming numbers of 'experts' that seems to not make a blind bit of difference to some, in fact is, in a through the looking glass world, cited as further evidence to vote leave. Anyway:
-40 years of membership of the single market has led to a more outward-looking, more prosperous British nation. There is *nothing* to suggest this will not continue.
-The European Union's founding purpose was to ensure the absence of war. Throughout its existence, member states of the EU have never taken up arms against each other - a remarkable achievement of unity given European history. I'm from the first generation of my family that hasn't fought in a major European war, and I don't want to be from the last"
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Now, I don't expect you to agree with my arguments - given that they're not identical to yours - but I do expect you to have the simple grace to accept they were made.
And I have read your Dyson example. It doesn't address any of the complexities of manufacture and how those prices rise with a weakened pound. That won't be the case for Dyson, because that great patriot manufactures in Malaysia - but for actual British manufacturers it's plain crackers to think any tariff benefit - and who's to say there will even be one outside a powerful trading bloc - will outweigh a significant weakening of Sterling. You really are going so far away from the grain of established economic thinking here that you may as well be on another planet.
Still waiting for an example of where you've ever admitted fallibility in any of your arguments on here. Happy to extend it away from simply this message board and include any incidents from your actual life. Suspect I'll be waiting a long time.