Sacking Smith now is also flawed thinking, we signed him as a long term coach, we need to give him some time.

You mentioned Hull, sacking their coach, hows the constant merry go round of coaches since then working out for them?

RS gets this season and chance to shape next seasons squad. Understand the frustration but knew jerking now is not what’s needed.

Yeah I know. I'm not advocating sacking him right now, but I'm a Smith sceptic. The thing about a long-term coach is, they have to be the guy, the right person.

I think Smith is that person, I guess we’ll have to wait snd see.

Sadly for Leeds Smith's lack of experience at the elite level will lead to a very long learning curve. It seems to me he is still working on his style e.g. passive defence, odd attacking structures. It seems he is using Leeds to hone his style.

Leeds needed a very experienced proven coach - perhaps in GH's defence no serious coach was willing to come - especially after the Furner show and the unhelpful influence of JJB - fortunately Smith soon put a stop to that.

Poor recruitment over many years and the lack of quality youth coming through hasn't helped - when did Leeds last produce a quality half back or FB? Every year we hear - great youngsters coming through - but where are they especially in key positions 1,6,7,9,13

passive defence on a children's size pitch simply invited pressure on our line. a stupid tactic which backfired

I don't to be honest, unfortunately. I think we're about to embark on a similar 3/4 years as what we had under Agar.

Smith is still untangling the mess created during the Agar years.

It will take longer than the 6 months hes been here. Apparently the work he’s doing within the club is all about the long term. Problem is fans are fickle snd see everything in the short term.

Wouldn’t say fans are ‘fickle’, but have been duped into believing the short term, cancel culture works. Society in general has gone that way. I would say people over 40 know that improvement takes time and patience. Think Fergie had about 5 years at United before winning anything!

We do need to get it right to give us the best chance of success in the medium to long term, but that does need to be balanced with results and, dare I say it, entertainment, in the short term. That's just the nature of professional sport and the world we're in, where there are many competing areas in which to spend our leisure £££. Difficult to achieve? Probably. But it's a challenge that needs to be met head on.

I agree you need to stick with it for at least this and the next two seasons - by then if it isn't working then its time to review.

Hopefully like Murray he can change the culture in the club, develop a youth development structure that actually delivers. Improve external recruitment that fits into the style he wants to play which looks like West Tigers 2005.

Yes, that's a fair assessment.

Yep, great post

Looking at how Rohan treats the younger players and the fact Johnson has only played 40 mins since his op, I assume Rohan wants him to play more minutes before bringing him into the first team.

That combined with the fact he had to have cover on the bench for Newman. I wouldn't be surprised to see him at Bradford this week. as other people say Rohan seems to look at the long term plan rather than panic decisions.