I think we’ve shown we can do it all in patches. We can also play some really nice stuff when ultimately for me the game is a form of entertainment.

I think there’s improvements to be made in consistency but again I think we are more consistent than last year (yes I know that was a low bar).

No we haven’t, we’ve been patchy and looked decent at times and poor at other times. Let’s see where we are in another 5 weeks or so

Have you set a time frame on this scenario?. Agree that we are in much better shape than last season. That’s entirely due to the fact we have splashed the cash and brought in several new players. So rightly so we are progressing, it would be a disaster if that wasn’t the case. Obviously we will have to wait till the seasons end to judge if Smith has been successful. So far we have had a complete failure in the challenge cup. So that’s one hurdle Smith has completely failed on.

On the contrary, most posters expressing legitimate concern that one of the worst team’s in the league hammered away at us for forty minutes. We barely ventured into the Cas half. I also praised our second half performance, especially Millers performance, potentially we might have uncovered a real gem in that player.

Can’t disagree on the CC exit although Saints will be strong contenders to win the thing on their early season form.

You can paint that as a catastrophe if you like but plenty of good sides will get beaten by Saints this season and already have.

Timeframe - I think if we keep on improving the squad and conditioning and coaching then results and success will come; more than that, be sustainable ish. Sport isn’t about absolutes is it? There would be no point watching it if there wasn’t risk and randomness in games. Leeds need to continue to build solid foundations and leverage their financial clout and assets etc.

We are already much better to watch this year than in most seasons I can remember since the wheels fell off. Maybe we can be content with being entertained by a good side and as long as we’re moving in the right direction we will end up being hard to beat.

Sticks in my throat a bit to say it but Saints are kind of the benchmark - they just haven’t fallen out of the tree hardly ever. Nearly always competitive and rarely make duff signings. We need to get better at them but not just in a one-off game.

jim, some good points.
we were supurb to watch in the second half v cas and leigh. the first half's were dire. if we continue to improve and play more like the second half's nobody woild have an issue.

Fair enough.

You feeling alright Tadster?

of course Jim. I, like you, want us to do well. frustration does get the better of me at times admittedly.
that first half was ridiculous imo. i know its workin now but long term it surely cant. you always get more fatigued defending. the second was classic rL. dominate, field position = points.

What I would like to see is a better overall performance back at HQ in better conditions next time we play Cas.

Looking forward to Warrington this week. Another big game for us really as we try to steer the oil tanker towards success…

With out being crude nothing less than a slick performance would be acceptable...

I’d take a win without a ‘slick’ performance. We need to keep picking up the Ws whatever the overall performance looks like.

You're right. Our attacking play does need some refinement.