I have a lot of time for Lancaster (we tried to get him as a player coach 18 years back) but he played an important role in reviving England's fortunes and bringing on younger players and the current squad are effectively Lancaster's choices. Quite why the players under performed so badly in the World Cup is still not clear but another example of players failing their coach. That said I was never in favour of Lancaster's pre determined substitution policy which played a part in the key defeat by Wales. But as a RU expert you will know that.



Too true. Nothing complicated about it at all - we have had half our squad (the better half) sitting in the stand injured each week. QED



How generous of you to afford Mac some crumbs from your table. I see you are trying to spin this theory that Mac was one of three coaches. I do not remember you blaming and calling for the head of these so called co-coaches (Sinfield & JP) in the years since 2011. Can you send me the link for your "taxi for Sinfield and JP" coaching comments

I added the quotation marks they were not in your original posting

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That sounds so much like an Ant & Dec comment

Negative thought is a menace and should be kept well away from creative people everywhere. I do hope the players don't read the terrible stuff posted on theses forums but I suspect some of them do. Some of the comments on here have been calling for chants of sack the coach etc and booing and if this sort of negative thinking is taken onto the terraces then there could well be a negative impact




I have consistently been fully behind our side in previous times of adversity and have posted positive comment specifically on all three players you name. But unlike some of the more sycophantic hero worship of certain players displayed on this forum I have had on occasion good reason to balance the rhetoric by pointing out a few basic flaws in each players game which have been proven to be correct observations. Which of my comments do you disagree with on each player?

I don't have an issue with McDermott staying provided his role at the club is changed and a serious assistant/s are appointed who can challenge his dogma.

Experienced players are making errors because the game plan of the coach isn't working so they are forcing the game. The defence isn't working again because the structures implemented by the coach don't work. Having a centre defending next to a prop is madness and you will not find another centre defending as far in field as Watkins at any of the top teams in SL.

I am not suggesting McDermott isn't working on the training field - what I am suggesting is whatever he is coaching isn't working - even you have to admit, least points scored, most points conceded and bottom of the league is tangible evidence something isn't working.

I take your point about things outside of his control but I ask you again - given all the stuff out of his control do you think the current position is as good as McDermott could have achieved?

We pay good money to watch the team we expect a level of performance that reflects the make up of the team - not winning but a performance. You expect all fans to cheer the team off and not criticise when they have got beat by 50 points - are you for real?

Under Murray Sinfield played 24 times so I would suggest your Murray didn't pick Sinfield is inaccurate - so we can discount the rest of the paragraph as nonsense.

Baldwinson made his debut in 2013 so if he was good enough then why isn't he good enough now? Has he regressed so far in the Leeds system?

A measured and fair assessment Sal IMO.....but you must know by now Juan (sorry for not asking Mr.Cornetto) will never concede an inch. We all know there will be a lengthy and tedious point by point rebuttal. Bring it on Juan zzzzzzz. At least Printer only sometimes likes to play devil's advocate ....Juan is just the permanent full time devil's sophist

So have I - my eyes tell me that the team is not being coached well (structures, motivation, tactics, use of subs)



I am



You are more than entitled to your opinion. I happen to disagree with it. You obviously have a problem with Hardaker, but he was the best player in SL last year (voted by his peers). The following have been in equally poor form to that of Hardaker

Proven in what way?



Your consistent fallback argument. And yet, I have been consistent in pressing you to explain why it is that we appear to have no

I agree, but to replace those two adequately just ain't going to happen if you agree Thurston, Cronk etc etc are not available to us. Which leads to another consistent gripe. Is BMD only capable of getting his team to compete if he has SL's best ever captain & organiser & SL's best ever prop & England captain? Welcome to the real world Mr McDermott




I don't know - I do not know what the budget is for coach, or who is available. But as others have said, coaches generally have a shelf life.



I would turn that around & say BMD has put us at real risk of relegation



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Very nice, but YOU said that we should all get behind BMD & the team. So your part in this is a few strokes of the keyboard from far away in the forlorn hope that one or more of the team may read these pages.

Do you not see the dichotomy & hypocrisy of the above?

I said Murray didnt pick Sinfield often not never.

In Murray's second season Sinfield played 21 times I would say that is pretty often wouldn't you - so your last paragraph of your previous post is indeed nonsense. How you can compare that to the treatment Baldwinson has received from McDermott defies any logic - but then so much posted on this thread does too.

The point i was making Sal was a lot of young players are drip fed quite rightly into the squad. I used Sinfield as an example as he is our most successful academy product. I had hoped you wouldnt take it as literally as you clearly have.

It was said McD has been spiteful to Baldwinson which there is no evidence of. He just doesnt deem him ready for Leeds at this stage of young career. As we all know prop is a very different position for a youngster than a winger for example.

Prop in fact is one position we havent had many injuries at. Whether you or I think Baldwinson is ready its McD's decision to make based on what he sees every day at training. If he chooses not to pick him thats not being spiteful in any way and its a ridiculous term to use.

Was he being spiteful when he dropped Singo earlier in the year? Or was he making a decision that he thought was best for the team at that time?

Im not a McD fan or hater i just objected to the term spiteful being used as it implies McD is deliberately making harmful decisions which i dont believe anyone at the club is doing. I firmly believe the people running the team and club are doing everything to turn this around.