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But not MCD?

Remember folks the coach isn't the man responsible for signing or retaining players. His job is to get the best out of the squad of players he's given to work with.

McShane was given a four year contract and the coveted number nine jersey but he's been given little opportunity to cement the place and is now out on loan.

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Quote: McRhino "Didn't do too badly with the last winger we signed from Manly...'"


Didn't realise Wlliams was playing reserve grade.

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Quote: McLaren_Field "Is it official now that we can all abandon any pretence of being able to structure a sentence so that other English people understand us ?'"


Maybe he's Central African?

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Quote: tvoc "Perhaps it was direct quote, albeit a poorly punctuated one.'"


Go on that video site and look at "Wakefield Wildcats Prop Richard Moore interview D'ya know"

It can't d'y know be a direct quote d'ya know

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Quote: Steve-O "Go on that video site and look at "Wakefield Wildcats Prop Richard Moore interview D'ya know"

It can't d'y know be a direct quote d'ya know'"


Big Daft Lads, poor command of the English language, limited brain power to improve their grasp of grammar, spelling is just human error but constructing or speaking a sentence that can be followed by others is basic human communication skills surely ?

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Wouldn't mind signing Williams if it means BJB moving to FB. I'd still prefer Chisholm to be given a chance with BJB at FB, but Williams is one of the best wingers around and he's in his prime so it would be an excellent signing if true. Not sure about Chase though, he won't be cheap and I'd rather that money be invested in the pack, however he will give us ome much needed pace in midfield.

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it would help if BJB could catch

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Rangi chase would be a bad signing.

He is not a winner. He would go missing for us against the top teams and in the big games.

Our priority surely has to be at hooker and in the pack? We are getting battered week in week out.

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good post. we need two top class, hard as nails props and a top class hooker

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Quote: Wilbred T Pricklepop "Rangi chase would be a bad signing.

He is not a winner. He would go missing for us against the top teams and in the big games.

Our priority surely has to be at hooker and in the pack? We are getting battered week in week out.'"


Agree our pack has to be a priority to sort out a average winger from down under is not going to change our performances

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Quote: tad rhino "it would help if BJB could catch'"


Apart from the one he dropped in the GF after taking a bang on the head I can't think of him dropping that many. His concentration is a bigger problem.

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Quote: Ferdy "Agree our pack has to be a priority to sort out a average winger from down under is not going to change our performances'"


Williams has been one of the form wingers in the NRL.

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Quote: Charlie Sheen "Williams has been one of the form wingers in the NRL.'"


Granted I haven't watched much NRL in the past 2 seasons but I just don't think we need him and I imagine he will take a large chunk of cap space.

I haven't seen him a a SOO or Aus shirt recently so assume he isn't one of the best. Also masively underwelmed by him in WCC. I know it was first game back but still would prefer money to be spent elsewhere

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IMO we need 4 tough young-middle aged forwards, someone who can direct the team around the park and a hooker, plus someone to fill the Senior-shaped hole at LC. My current shopping list would be:

Amor-loan return
Ambler-loan return
Elima-OOC
Bateman-Bradford
Kopczak-Bradford
Hood-loan return
Millard-OOC

to balance this off, release Peacock, Kirke, Smith & Clarkson. Leaves a Front row group of Leuluai, Griffin, Bailey, Kopczak, Ambler & Amor; and a second row group of Jones-Buchanan, Ablett, Elima, Delaney, Hauraki & Daniel Smith, with Bateman at LF. McShane & Hood to fight for starting Hooker role, with Burrow benching as standard, and look at starting Ward at 6 ahead of Sinfield, with McGuire to continue at 7.

Also, make a decision asap on who the next captain will be after Sinfield. Arise Sir Carl Ablett.

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Quote: Tyke's/Rhinos No. 1 Fan "IMO we need 4 tough young-middle aged forwards, someone who can direct the team around the park and a hooker, plus someone to fill the Senior-shaped hole at LC. My current shopping list would be


The only person on that 'shopping list' I can see playing for us again is Hood.

Agree with others though, an NRL Winger is not a priority and a waste of Cap and Quota space.

IF Williams is signed it will probably mean Chisholm ending up on loan somewhere and then ending up at another SL team some time down the line.

Chisholm may or may not end up being a hit in our first team at SL level, but I'd sure as hell like to see him given a chance before we sign an NRL winger.

There's a history on here and with sporting fans in general that when the team is not going well, players out of the team are always 'bigged' up as being the answer, ''get him in'', 'he's going to be a star etc etc.

We've seen it with McShane, Hardaker and to a lesser extent with Hood and Lunt already.

Many didn't want to see Buderus kept on this season because they saw McShane and Hood as the answer to our prayers but both have had some critism on here when they have played and been found wanting in defence.

Lunt is then brought in despite us having these two great next generation hookers and after his debut is compared to Buderus etc and there's a longing to sign him FT yet a few games later his contribution is now getting questioned along with those of other multi GF winning team members.

I fear the same could be true of Amor and Ambler.

When both have played the odd game for us many have slated their performance, or lack of and stated they'd never make it etc they go on loan and yet when we start to struggle, suddenly they are seen as almost our pack saviours.

I suppose it's the fickle nature of sports fans in general that everyone in a team that suffers a bad run is past it, not good enough, waste of a shirt etc and the call is to bring the 'reserves' in who are then 'bigged up' for a few games before they too are deemed not 'upto SL standard' and the axe in then demanded on them as well.

People on here that were slagging off their own team and players this time last year were then pronouncing the very same players to be the best ever after the 'run in' last year to our next GF triumph.

I think and would hope that this group of special players in our history have earned the right to try and rectify matters this year before the calls for many to be axed.

Nothing lasts for ever and granted some changes will need to be made over this next couple of years and are already been made in terms of the integration of Watkins,BJB,Hardaker,McShane,Hood etc into the 1st team but will our fans be happy to accept a couple more years of 'under performing' whilst the next generation learn their trade at SL level?

The 'problem' with winning so many GF trophies in recent years is that fans expect, even demand that success to continue but it is very hard to maintain that in any Salary Cap sport and this group have excelled in reaching 6 GF's in the last 8 years and winning 5 of them.

Our club spent many years 'splashing the cash' in the hope of winning trophies and it didn't work and nearly bankrupt us before the Caddick & Hetherington 'rescue'

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Williams has more of the skillset to play fullback than BJB. Could that be the plan?

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