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Quote: Dallas Clark "I'd say I sawa Amor play about 10 times last season both live and on TV and never saw him have a bad game. I reckon he's got a real big part to play in the squad this year.'"


Amor important role than Bailey or Burgess?

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Quote: Old Feller "Amor important role than Bailey or Burgess?'"


It's hard to tell. If he applies himself properly and progresses in a professional environment then I reckon he's got the potential to be infinately better than those two.

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Quote: Dallas Clark "It's hard to tell. If he applies himself properly and progresses in a professional environment then I reckon he's got the potential to be infinately better than those two.'"

Lets not also forget we do have 2 un18 england props also in the wings , with the right development etc etc , no shortage i would say !

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Quote: knockon "Lets not also forget we do have 2 un18 england props also in the wings , with the right development etc etc , no shortage i would say !'"

TBF mate we have a few decent youngsters further down the line and hopefully the new u20 comp and possible dual registration will enhance their development into challenging for a 1st team spot.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "Careful, those kinds of assertions tend to get the JP fanboys up in arms pretty quickly.

IMO he's not been the same player for the last 12-18 months as he was in his first season at Leeds. It's a similar situation to the way Fielden has gone downhill after being asked to play 65-70 minutes every week.'"

Can't say I've noticed. In fact, I don't remember his first season at Leeds being particularly outstanding, but then my memory is not what it was. You have to remember he is 32 now so to get to his age as a prop playing so well still is outstanding, and with not an ounce of complaint.

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well I can't understand anybody discounting Bailey after the season end performances. Ablett is a workhorse and I rate him but i think he may well fall behind in the pecking order and the young forwards will have to wait a little longer, but not Burgess I believe he's ready and able to start the games, glad its not my decision, but here goes
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I'm glad we have such a strong pack with such depth. Putting pressure on each other for a place in the pack can only be good!

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Bluey will rotate his pack next season, a fact that he has already alluded to. So all the squad players will get plenty of game time throughout the season.

So IMO all the packs chosen will prove to be a hypothetical pack, as all of these packs will probably start numerous games throughout the season

A better question would have been:
If all the squad are fit, and were playing at the top of their game, and the Rhinos made either the Challenge Cup Final or the Grand Final, then the squad that Bluey would pick would be:

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Quote: knockon "Lets not also forget we do have 2 un18 england props also in the wings...'"


That's just stupid. They'll be far too slow.

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Quote: The Biffs Back "
A better question would have been

A real tough one, shows our strength in depth next year.

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I think it would be. Tough on Ablett and Kirke if they did miss out though.

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Quote: Dallas Clark "A real tough one, shows our strength in depth next year.

Webb
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Eastwood
Jones-Buchannan
Sinfield

Buderus
Lauitiiti
Burgess
Bailey

I think it would be. Tough on Ablett and Kirke if they did miss out though.'"


I personally don't think that Diskin and Buderus will be both in the final 17 man squad should we make either final

Imo the Diskin/Buderus rotation doesn't work

IMO Bluey will go with an extra out and out forward on the bench

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Quote: Andy Gilder "Careful, those kinds of assertions tend to get the JP fanboys up in arms pretty quickly.

IMO he's not been the same player for the last 12-18 months as he was in his first season at Leeds. It's a similar situation to the way Fielden has gone downhill after being asked to play 65-70 minutes every week.'"

I don't agree with your assessment of Peacock but think you have your comparison with Fielden all to cock any road.

Fielden was immense when playing 80 mins at the Bulls. He was rarely subbed. He went downhill at Wigan but was not being asked to play 65-70 mins. He was being spelled in rotation. Fieldens' decline has little to do with any change in game time, IMO, but in any event his game time has reduced since he was at his best.

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I'd have Bang in there somewhere.

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Quote: G1 "I don't agree with your assessment of Peacock but think you have your comparison with Fielden all to cock any road.

Fielden was immense when playing 80 mins at the Bulls. He was rarely subbed. He went downhill at Wigan but was not being asked to play 65-70 mins. He was being spelled in rotation. Fieldens' decline has little to do with any change in game time, IMO, but in any event his game time has reduced since he was at his best.'"


I think AG is referring to Fielden having been worn down after playing 65-70 (or 80) mins a week over most of his career, rather than a having a recent change to playing that kind of time.

On Peacock's side is that he had a later start to his top level career, so has less miles on the clock.

I feel, to get the best out of Peacock he has to play long spells. Perhaps it might be better that he get the occasional week off, although that is still no substitute for a proper off-season.

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Quote: G1 "I don't agree with your assessment of Peacock but think you have your comparison with Fielden all to cock any road.

Fielden was immense when playing 80 mins at the Bulls. He was rarely subbed. He went downhill at Wigan but was not being asked to play 65-70 mins. He was being spelled in rotation. Fieldens' decline has little to do with any change in game time, IMO, but in any event his game time has reduced since he was at his best.'"


Chicken and egg IMO Gareth. I'd say he got less game time because he was being less effective rather than the other way around. Fielden was immense and for a period of 2-3 years arguably the best front rower in the world. The workload he had to bear in his last couple of years at the Bulls however is one that no prop could carry for any length of time, it's just past the limits of human endurance.

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