Are you on drugs???

Just to add further grist to the McGuire rumour mill, when Nicola Adams came down to Kirkstall he was out on the field in full training kit...

Don't think its McDermott's style to try and be sly and have McGuire lined up to play secretly. He has always seemed a very honest and straight forward bloke and I don't think pulling tricks is in him, so from the moment he said McGuire was out i was certain it was true.

My prediction of both teams line ups on Saturday

Hodgson........Hardaker
Riley.............BJB
Atkins...........Watkins
Ratchford......Ablett
Monnaghan....Hall
Briers............Sinfield
Myler............Ward
Hill...............Leuluai
Higham.........Burrow
Morley..........Peacock
Waterhouse...JJB
Westwood.....Delaney
Harrison........Bailey

Carvell..........Griffin
Monnaghan....Lunt
Wood...........Kirke
Grix..............Moore

Winners: Leeds
Lance Todd: Stevie Ward
First try: Westwood
Attendance: 71236

And a support on his leg

Correct.

Delaney has 84 appearances all in the starting line-up.

And he was arguably Leeds' best at Wembley last year.

Chucked a bit on at 25/1 for Stevie - good odds.

I doubt you'd have McGuire in front of the press if you were planning a surprise appearance from him.

are you allowed to change the named squad? ive also heard a few rumours that mcguire will play but obviously he is not named in the squad.

I believe you are but only if it is deemed to be an improvement to the team... For example we can't name the first team for a game, get people through the gates and then put out the u18's instead. Might be wrong on that tho....

Irellevant tho as McGuire is injured and is not playing.

I can't see Keinhorst getting picked unless one of the other backs isn't fit. A centre on the bench with just 3 sub appearances would be a massive gamble. As it is, with Delaney and Ward in the squad and the ability of others to switch around, I just don't see the need for a threequarter on the bench.

I wouldn't start with Ward. Lunt should be at hooker & bring on Stevie to run at the tired Warrington pack later in the game.

So is Webb done at Leeds now?

Indeed.....then start Keinhorst at LC and put Ablett on the bench. The issue then does not exist, does it ?



Ablett instead becomes the extra useful bench forward ....who is also the best stand-in centre the club has.

Either way the room for Keinhorst in the starting 17 is still valid IMO ( IF McGuire is not fit )

Do even you really, honestly believe that Keinhorst, at this stage of his career, is a better centre than Ablett?

Did I actually make that statement ??

Warrington will line up with:

Hodgson,
Riley, Atkins, Ratchford, J Monaghan,
Briers, Myler
Carvell, Higham, Hill,
Westwood, Waterhouse,
Harrison.

M Monaghan, Wood, McCarthy, Morley

Tony Smith just confirmed this to the media.

No, if you had I wouldn't have asked would I? But why else would you pick him there in favour of moving our best left centre to the bench? Especially when Ablett's other position in the back 3 of the pack is one we have so many other options in (Ward, JJB, Delaney, Bailey, Sinfield etc).

Did he actually say that you did?



Either way, I'm sure there is a logic to putting Ablett on the bench in order to shoehorn Keinhorst into the starting team any which way, thus arguably weakening the LC position. I'm just not sure what it is?

We won't need Ablett in the second row because Hall will be playing there to allow Chisholm to be on the wing. So of course Ablett should be on the bench.

Barring any last minute withdrawal through injury:-

Leeds: Z Hardaker; B Jones-Bishop, K Watkins, C Ablett, R Hall; K Sinfield (capt), S Ward; K Leuluai, R Burrow, J Peacock, J Jones-Buchanan, B Delaney, R Bailey.
Subs: D Griffin, C Clarkson, I Kirke, S Lunt.

Warrington: B Hodgson; C Riley, R Atkins, S Ratchford, J Monaghan; L Briers, R Myler; G Carvell, M Higham, C Hill, T Waterhouse, B Westwood, B Harrison.
Subs: Morley, M Monaghan, McCarthy, Wood

the two sides will be:

Warrington Wolves

Brett Hodgson
Chris Riley
Ryan Atkins
Stefan Ratchford
Joel Monaghan
Lee Briers
Richie Myler
Garreth Carvell
Mickey Higham
Chris Hill
Ben Westwood
Trent Waterhouse
Ben Harrison

Interchanges: Michael Monaghan, Adrian Morley, Paul Wood, Tyrone McCarthy

Leeds Rhinos

Zak Hardaker
Ben Jones-Bishop
Kallum Watkins
Carl Ablett
Ryan Hall
Kevin Sinfield
Rob Burrow
Kylie Leuluai
Shaun Lunt
Jamie Peacock
Jamie Jones-Buchanan
Brett Delaney
Ryan Bailey

Interchanges: Ian Kirke, Darrell Griffin, Richard Moore, Stevie Ward

Not bad logic and 'out of the box' thinking Nanty

Warrington are a great attacking side and are likely to score points in most games. So whilst needing a big defensive effort we will also need to keep putting plenty of points on the board to have a realistic chance if winning. Therefore I do not think that packing the bench with similar forwards, who will put in the tackles but offer little in attack, is the best game plan to beat the Wires.

With Delaney, JP and JJB capable of high tackle counts and long game time backed up with a big effort from Bailey we should have room for some extra attacking flare too. Therefore I think your suggestion is a valid one as with Ablett coming off the bench we will maintain the quality of the afore mentioned when they rotate. Playing Keinhorst would mean taking a risk but one that could well be worth it.

I would start Ward in the halves and Burrow at 9 and keep both on when Lunt gets a shift. We have to attack them and gain the initiative and that means not only taking some risks but also taking our attacking opportunities whenever they come which means having creative players always on hand.

I would have taken a risk with Webb on the bench but I guess the coaches know if he is not mentally prepared for this one.

Keinhorst is very new to RL at this level, and quite new to it at any level. He shows great promise, but nothing in his 3 appearances so far suggest that he is yet at a level where you would describe him as a likely game changer from the bench. Webb as a gamble I can understand, Keinhorst's pay-off for the gamble is too unlikely. His time may well come, but I don't think it's this time.