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| The attacking play where we repeatedly throw the second man pass along the line appears to be the only structured play we have.
One of the problems on the left is Moon who seems incapable of running in a straight line - he often cramps his winger for space due to his diagonal running.
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"
One of the problems on the left is Moon who seems incapable of running in a straight line - he often cramps his winger for space due to his diagonal running.'"
Yet he is our form centre and tops our try assists and this season already has a higher number that anyone last year
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| Quote FlexWheeler="FlexWheeler"So do you think everything is ok with leeds defence and attacking protocols?'"
Leeds have shown this season they can defend well and attack well so nothing wromg with your protocols. When players lose form and their timing if just a bit off the things that looked good one week can look poo the next. Accept that it is the players that recently have not performed and not the coaches.
Class players will regain form given time and patience. They know more than anyone when things are not right.
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| Quote Juan Cornetto="Juan Cornetto"Leeds have shown this season they can defend well and attack well so nothing wromg with your protocols. When players lose form and their timing if just a bit off the things that looked good one week can look poo the next. Accept that it is the players that recently have not performed and not the coaches.
Class players will regain form given time and patience. They know more than anyone when things are not right.'"
That comment is far too sensible for this thread , have a word with yourself .
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| Quote Juan Cornetto="Juan Cornetto"Yet he is our form centre and tops our try assists and this season already has a higher number that anyone last year'"
The fact still remains his running style cramps his winger for space - Thursday night highlighted this
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| Quote Him="Him"
The attacking protocols, well I think they're fine too. I don't buy this stuff about attacking structure. We're Leeds. We've never had a rigid attacking structure. A rigid attacking structure is there for teams who don't have the skill and flair to play flashy rugby.
I find teams based around attacking structures incredibly boring to watch. Teams like Huddersfield & Wigan. I'd far rather watch Leeds, Cas or Saints any day of the week.
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What about effective rugby?
Wigan have scored more points, and have a greater points difference. They are the champions.
Effective. Results.
It's funny to me you mention flair and flashy play. Running around aimlessly along the line, throwing hail marys out wide, i don't consider that good to watch. Wigan create space and overlaps out wide with structure in the middle so their wide players get space to run and score good tries. That is good to watch. Imagine how good leeds could be to watch with hall, briscoe, watkins and moon being put into similiar situations.
It's also again funny you mention flair and flashy play. 3 of leeds 4 tries were from kicks the other night.
Awesome.
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"The attacking play where we repeatedly throw the second man pass along the line appears to be the only structured play we have.
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Yeah, and this is usually followed straight after by the long ball out wide to ablett/moon on the left or watkins on the right. It can look pretty but it's not enough to confuse the defence.
It's easy for the defence to cover across, so it ends up relying on some form of miracle play from these players. Remember the hall try at the magic weekend where moon had to suck 3 defenders into the tackle, before producing a magic ball to hall who then had to use all his strength and skill to squeeze in and ground it one handed in the corner?
Magic plays. You can't rely on them.
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| There`s some right e on here from all the Mighty Terrace Test Caps.
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"The fact still remains his running style cramps his winger for space - Thursday night highlighted this'"
The facts also remain that Hall is our top try scorer and Moon is top for try assists and they have built up a good understanding which cannot be said for the Watkins / Briscoe combo. Moon with his highly effective running style is our most likley player to create a try.
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| Quote FlexWheeler="FlexWheeler"
Wigan have scored more points, and have a greater points difference. They are the champions. '"
And yet they're out of the Challenge Cup and only level on points with Leeds in the league.
Aggregate scoreline over the 2 Leeds Wigan games this season - Leeds 42 - Wigan 30
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| Quote FlexWheeler="FlexWheeler"What about effective rugby?
Wigan have scored more points, and have a greater points difference. They are the champions.
Effective. Results.
It's funny to me you mention flair and flashy play. Running around aimlessly along the line, throwing hail marys out wide, i don't consider that good to watch. Wigan create space and overlaps out wide with structure in the middle so their wide players get space to run and score good tries. That is good to watch. Imagine how good leeds could be to watch with hall, briscoe, watkins and moon being put into similiar situations.
It's also again funny you mention flair and flashy play. 3 of leeds 4 tries were from kicks the other night.
Awesome.'"
No wigan create space by sending dummy runners in front of the ball to cause obstruction. I don't find that either good attacking play or good to watch.
We were managing to put Hall, Briscoe, Watkins & Moon into good attacking space earlier in the season without the need for the boring blockers that many teams seem to like to use, and then b1tch and whine about when they're rightly done for obstruction.
There's no reason we can't get back to that.
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| Quote Juan Cornetto="Juan Cornetto"The facts also remain that Hall is our top try scorer and Moon is top for try assists and they have built up a good understanding which cannot be said for the Watkins / Briscoe combo. Moon with his highly effective running style is our most likley player to create a try.'"
Given that Leeds attack mostly down his side his try and assist ratio is bound to be higher - would Watkins create and score more with the same level of supply I for one would say yes. It is all conjecture
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