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Quote: Era of the Biff "You lost the argument there.'"

Whereas you've rendered all arguments null and void by declaring blind faith in the coaching team.

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Quote: GCM1980 "Whereas you've rendered all arguments null and void by declaring blind faith in the coaching team.'"


Hi dumbo.

Just go back and read what I compared the coaching team against to reach my conclusion.

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Quote: Era of the Biff "Hi dumbo.

Just go back and read what I compared the coaching team against to reach my conclusion.'"

I did. He enjoys a drink, like 99% of people on here. My point stands.

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Quote: GCM1980 "I did. He enjoys a drink, like 99% of people on here. My point stands.'"


Your point is ba[itsh[/iit looney tunes.

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Maverick, you're missing the point. Nobody's arguing that if Leeds wanted to sign a hooker for last year, Buderus was clearly the best available in the world. What IS being argued is whether signing Buderus made any sense if he was brought in to operate in rotation with Diskin, a role which suits neither of them.

The signing of Buderus still smacks of a shiny Aussie star rather than a clearly thought out plan around hooking options. The latter would have either seen Buderus signed and Diskin released (or at least told his game time would be limited to when Buderus was unfit) or a genuine rotational hooker signed, McShane promoted to do that role, or - shock horror - making use of the same system that worked in 2004, 2007 and 2008 (and with hindsight 2009) of using Diskin with no specialist backup.

From what I've seen the system of using Diskin from the bench doesn't work. To me its effectively a waste of a bench spot in most games.

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Quote: BrisbaneRhino "The signing of Buderus still smacks of a shiny Aussie star rather than a clearly thought out plan around hooking options. The latter would have either seen Buderus signed and Diskin released (or at least told his game time would be limited to when Buderus was unfit) or a genuine rotational hooker signed, McShane promoted to do that role, or - shock horror - making use of the same system that worked in 2004, 2007 and 2008 (and with hindsight 2009) of using Diskin with no specialist backup.

From what I've seen the system of using Diskin from the bench doesn't work. To me its effectively a waste of a bench spot in most games.'"


The signing of Buderus was an opportunistic signing of a shiny Aussie star rather than a clearly thought out plan around hooking options. In March of 2008, Hetherington made a trip to Australia to secure a replacement from the NRL for the departing second rower Gareth Ellis. Whoever his possible targets were (evidence points to Frank Pritchard being top of the list) he failed to secure the signing of a replacement second rower and quite bizarrely returned from his trip having signed Danny Buderus instead, who was conveniently trumpeted as a rlreplacement for Ellisrl icon_lol.gif

My whole stance on it has always been that regardless of name, or reputation the players should be appraised on current form on the pitch, rather than what has been achieved in the past. Both players have great pasts. From my view Buderus has out-performed Diskin this season, Diskin was better last season.

However, had Buderus not signed for another year, I doubt it would have weakened the team/squad noticably.

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Quote: BrisbaneRhino "Maverick, you're missing the point. '"


I'm not missing it, I just don't see the value in the debate given it has already happened and we have to live with it.

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Quote: Maverick Rhino "He has had several injuries over his 2 seasons here, more than average, suggesting his body is feeling the strain of so many years at the very highest level'"


As Buderus has played in 30 out of a possible 34 games so far this season his old body doesn't appear to be struggling to cope whether it's feeling the strain or not.

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Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "The signing of Buderus was an opportunistic signing of a shiny Aussie star rather than a clearly thought out plan around hooking options. In March of 2008, Hetherington made a trip to Australia to secure a replacement from the NRL for the departing second rower Gareth Ellis. Whoever his possible targets were (evidence points to Frank Pritchard being top of the list) he failed to secure the signing of a replacement second rower and quite bizarrely returned from his trip having signed Danny Buderus instead, who was conveniently trumpeted as a rlreplacement for Ellisrl h025.gif

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