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Quote: The Eagle "We are physically dominated in almost every collision, both with and without the ball. We are an embarrassment, particularly in defense'"


Yep, and we have been saying it for months now.If anything its getting worse rather than improving from week to week.

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Quote: Biff Tannen "Yep, and we have been saying it for months now.If anything its getting worse rather than improving from week to week.'"


Who's responsibility is conditioning....

Ian.......Ian Kirke? icon_smile.gif

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Quote: ThePrinter "Funny thing is the single biggest problem tonight is one that people on here were suggesting by putting JJB at 2nd row just for the sake of picking Baldwinson. All Castleford's joy is coming from that right 2nd row area in defence.'"


You are spot on there. He left so many gaping holes, and then no mobility to fill in. But then again, that right side has been appalling all season long, no matter who plays there. Some truely horrendous individual performances out there tonight. Except I will give credit to just the one player, and sick of hearing the preconceived moaning about him no matter what he does, and that is Galloway who far exceeded his team mates tonight,

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Quote: batleyrhino "Confidence is a funny thing and can make the difference between making a good performance great, or a sluggish performance poor. However Leeds look so shambolic, it's a lot more than confidence that's the problem here. We are so far out of sync with and without the ball, that it's embarrassing. This should be rectified on the training field and I don't buy that we are so short of players who can train that the defensive problems cannot have been fixed up long before now. I saw one of the so called injured players out shopping this week and if his so called injury was what it's made out to be he wouldn't have been able to play with his kid the way he was doing.

I understand the issue with many injuries and how they can be disruptive but many other teams have suffered big injury problems and still perform much better than we do, and that rests with the coach for the continuous players performances, and the CEO for recruitment.

There is no way back from this. Either they change the coach for next year or they change the players. GH has already said we will not be changing the players, so that only leaves one alternative. Ironically, whilst I become more convinced with each passing week that its time for a change in the coaching department, I also respect BMD more as a person for defending his troops at the same time.

Something has to change...'"



McDermott said in his interview that they would be back in for training on Monday. Would you give them 3 days off after that?

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Whilst it meant nothing in the grand scheme of the game, just watching the obstruction on JJB try, what a joke that that was given and Silverwood saying to McGuire it was JJB to blame and not the Cas attacker.

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Quote: newgroundb4wakey "McDermott said in his interview that they would be back in for training on Monday. Would you give them 3 days off after that?'"


Judging by the fact that training has changed diddly squat since last season, we might see an improvement if they did not train altogether and had the whole week off.

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I'm just not sure what they actually do at training. Can't be the simple practice of attacking and defensive drills, as they look like they've never done either before.

Maybe they're practicing standing behind the posts looking dejected after letting in a try? Or talking about how well they've prepared and how important the next game is, to be followed by the inevitable 'that was disappointing, we'll have to work on it during the week' press conferences?

They're getting very good at those things.

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Quote: ThePrinter "Whilst it meant nothing in the grand scheme of the game, just watching the obstruction on JJB try, what a joke that that was given and Silverwood saying to McGuire it was JJB to blame and not the Cas attacker.'"


Silverwood was typically dire last night. Someone must have told him in the week about markers having to stand square, as he went OTT on ghat - lets hope someone tells him this week about getting them back 10 at the PTB...

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Only focus on the players who can change things on the pitch.
Tackle round the legs.
Practise some moves , (it was clear Cas had.)
Respect your opposition.
Stop believing the GH version of The Emperors Clothes. Trust what you can see.
Risk of relegation is now raised to Highly Likely.
Taxi for Macca.
Good luck with this.

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Quote: Uppo58 "Only focus on the players who can change things on the pitch.
Tackle round the legs.
Practise some moves , (it was clear Cas had.)
Respect your opposition.
Stop believing the GH version of The Emperors Clothes. Trust what you can see.
Risk of relegation is now raised to Highly Likely.
Taxi for Macca.
Good luck with this.'"


I know things are looking bleak but you can't honestly think you won't finish in the top 3 of the middles 8's (if indeed you are in there) and if the worst comes to the worst lose the £1M game?

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Quote: COYF "I know things are looking bleak but you can't honestly think you won't finish in the top 3 of the middles 8's (if indeed you are in there) and if the worst comes to the worst lose the £1M game?'"



This season and after last night ANYTHING is possible. icon_sad.gif

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Quote: Uppo58 "Only focus on the players who can change things on the pitch.
Tackle round the legs.
Practise some moves , (it was clear Cas had.)
Respect your opposition.
Stop believing the GH version of The Emperors Clothes. Trust what you can see.
Risk of relegation is now raised to Highly Likely.
Taxi for Macca.
Good luck with this.'"


"Tackle round the legs" - it's traditional in Rugby League to achieve this by having a smaller forward - it's called a hooker for those that don't remember them - defending the middle along with your 6'4'' props. Might be worth a shot.

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Leeds beat Castleford at home in 1996.

That result may be of interest to those comparing 2016 (W3, L11) with 1996 (W6, L16).

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Needing tvoc's help. But have Leeds ever averaged such a lower points for total over this many games, in the modern era?

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Quote: Gotcha "Needing tvoc's help. But have Leeds ever averaged such a lower points for total over this many games, in the modern era?'"


Sorry, missed this one first time around until someone pointed it out to me.

Taking the modern era as SL and to keep it simple for me taking the average per game from those complete Regular Round seasons we have the following17.29 (After 14 Rounds)
Previous Lowest 24.71 (Season 2000, Coach Dean Lance)
Previous Highest 41.14 (Season 2005, Coach Tony Smith)

Tries Average Per Game -

This Season 3.00 (After 14 Rounds)
Previous Lowest 4.09 (Season 1997, Coach Dean Bell)
Previous Highest 7.46 (Season 2005, Coach Tony Smith)

Goals Average Per Game -

This Season 2.64 (After 14 Rounds)
Previous Lowest 3.56 (Season 2014, Coach Brian McDermott)
Previous Highest 5.64 (Season 2005, Coach Tony Smith)

A more appropriate time to make the comparison will be after Round 23 if Leeds finish between 9th and 12th or after Round 30 if Leeds sneak into the Super 8's. Given there are possibly only 9 rounds remaining (depending on your interpretation of the middle 8 status) Leeds would have to more or less double the number of tries and goals they have scored per game so far this season to prevent it from being their worst performance in terms of points, tries and goals in the 21 seasons of the SL Era.

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