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| Quote ="Gotcha"By the way, the short period Dwyer was on, he missed five tackles. That is pretty pathetic, and no wonder he was pulled off and not back on.'"
From reading the comments on here recently it seems that many Leeds fans see Dwyer as one of the few positives this year. Personally I think he is one of your biggest issues. You can't doubt his effort and enthusiasm, but he is way too erratic. Hooker is a vital position, it's not just about running from dummy half. He takes terrible options all of the time and just generally plays like a headless chicken.
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| Dwyer is a headless chicken type player. He’s ok if you need to spark things up a bit for a brief period but too often he just makes it up as he goes along and is difficult to read. In defence it’s like his brain can’t keep up with his body.
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| I said to one of our other posters, that for Brad Dwyer, think Phil Ford at Hooker...
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"I said to one of our other posters, that for Brad Dwyer, think Phil Ford at Hooker...'"
I can see the comparison. Rocks and diamonds. Not what you want in a hooker.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"I said to one of our other posters, that for Brad Dwyer, think Phil Ford at Hooker...'"
I think more back to Mick Shaw, who looked incredible at times, but just not the player you could rely on all round,
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| Quote ="Bullseye"I can see the comparison. Rocks and diamonds. Not what you want in a hooker.'"
They are, but I was thinking more like the brain doesn't know what the hands and feet will do next...
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I think more back to Mick Shaw, who looked incredible at times, but just not the player you could rely on all round,'" There's a quality young 9 in the Acadamy just awaiting a chance 
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| Terrible performance against an average looking Cas side that didn`t do anything special yet still beat us comfortably.
I cannot believe how little passion or bottle Leeds now have.
Myler and Sutcliffe and Watkins were a complete waste of a jersey.
McLelland you can see has the skills but is not yet up to SL standard although I think he will get there.
Same can be said for Newman.
Smith I thought wasn`t that bad and will look better alongside Ward whenever he can get back on the pitch.
Briscoe did much better than he did against Bradford and Handley tried his best.
But unless we can get some mongrel in that pack and find another half back we will continue to battle relegation with London.
Watkins either needs to go on loan or move in to the second row and Sutcliffe and Myler need dropping.
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| Maybe you should raid the lower leagues for some mongrel? A Farrell and Fleary for 2020 wouldn't go amiss.
In fact Leeds now remind me of the 1997 side. A few useful juniors and one or two decent players but a lot of dross. Like then Hetherington needs to splash the cash for a playmaker like he did with Harris and some tough forwards to give you a harder edge.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Maybe you should raid the lower leagues for some mongrel? A Farrell and Fleary for 2020 wouldn't go amiss.
In fact Leeds now remind me of the 1997 side. A few useful juniors and one or two decent players but a lot of dross. Like then Hetherington needs to splash the cash for a playmaker like he did with Harris and some tough forwards to give you a harder edge.'"
Yes I'm reminded of that era too
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| We were just not good enough, at times we competed well, but other times we were poor. However we are seeing some kind of improvement. Kendall the ref as usual had a shocker for both teams, how he gets games is unbeleivable, yet not using the video ref on a few occasions was poor. Short of a half back, a quality half back would get us moving forward especially in game management and at the end of plays etc. Its time to make concrete offers of £200k for both Hastings and Trueman.
On thing I did note last night sitting behind the Cas dug out, when their forwards left the pitch for a rest they were well spent, you could see they had done a full shift and was equally ready to return when called upon, this is what I want our forwards to be like. Their back row last night was good. I just wish we had the same commitment and quality
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| Quote ="Brodie123"We were just not good enough, at times we competed well, but other times we were poor. However we are seeing some kind of improvement. Kendall the ref as usual had a shocker for both teams, how he gets games is unbeleivable, yet not using the video ref on a few occasions was poor. Short of a half back, a quality half back would get us moving forward especially in game management and at the end of plays etc. Its time to make concrete offers of £200k for both Hastings and Trueman.
On thing I did note last night sitting behind the Cas dug out, when their forwards left the pitch for a rest they were well spent, you could see they had done a full shift and was equally ready to return when called upon, this is what I want our forwards to be like. Their back row last night was good. I just wish we had the same commitment and quality'"
Out of interest which calls did he get wrong that he should have gone to the video ref for? I found it quite refreshing he backed himself and gave them on field and I thought he got them right? On a side note do your fans boo at everything? The JSL try, what was wrong with that one as the whole stadium seemed to boo when it was shown back?
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| Why don't we all move to Bondi, then we can watch a commited team with heart and belief. Oh and I forgot wingers.
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| Quote ="splaz"Why don't we all move to Bondi, then we can watch a commited team with heart and belief. Oh and I forgot wingers.'"
Bondi is a dump
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| I tend to agree, I was only talking about the rugby though.
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| Quote ="splaz"Why don't we all move to Bondi, then we can watch a commited team with heart and belief. Oh and I forgot wingers.'"
Rather be in Blackpool.
Summer Bash here we come.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"Out of interest which calls did he get wrong that he should have gone to the video ref for? I found it quite refreshing he backed himself and gave them on field and I thought he got them right? On a side note do your fans boo at everything? The JSL try, what was wrong with that one as the whole stadium seemed to boo when it was shown back?'"
Yes wasn`t really sure why the fans booed as it clearly shows the ball was grounded.
Probably the only contentious try was when McMeeken I think collided with Newman in the air resulting in him dropping it.
I`ve seen them disallowed before and on the other side of the coin seen them given.
If the fans wanted to boo it should have been at the amount of times the ball was passed forward by McShane but I would not be surprised to read we did the same.
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| Lolohea in a boot, lower body injury won't be good for his tub.
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| The penalty and yellow for Watkins was wrong. Eden looked like he needed a neck brace and stretcher and then a minute later from the penalty, he makes a miraculous recovery and scores. They should not have been given the penalty to have that field position.
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| Quote ="rugbyleague88"The penalty and yellow for Watkins was wrong. Eden looked like he needed a neck brace and stretcher and then a minute later from the penalty, he makes a miraculous recovery and scores. They should not have been given the penalty to have that field position.'"
Hips went beyond the horizontal, if only briefly. It was the correct decision and we've seen yellow cards given for similar dangerous tackles during the season so the consistency is there as well.
I imagine Eden stayed down for a bit because it probably hurt. The severity of an injury (or lack of) should have no bearing on the punishment. The [ipotential[/i was there to injure the player.
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| Quote ="Nothus"Hips went beyond the horizontal, if only briefly. It was the correct decision and we've seen yellow cards given for similar dangerous tackles during the season so the consistency is there as well.
I imagine Eden stayed down for a bit because it probably hurt. The severity of an injury (or lack of) should have no bearing on the punishment. The [ipotential[/i was there to injure the player.'"
No they didn't ,Eden kicks his legs up before Watkins puts him on his back not even a penalty.
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"No they didn't ,Eden kicks his legs up before Watkins puts him on his back not even a penalty.'"
Go and watch it again, Watkins puts his hand under Eden's leg and raises it.
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| Eden could have landed on his head if he didn't correct himself before he hits the floor. Maybe he should have landed on his head and Watkins then gets a red.
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"No they didn't ,Eden kicks his legs up before Watkins puts him on his back not even a penalty.'"
In one sentence, sums up how blinkered some people are, when it's their team the decision goes against.
It was the correct decision, and he got most of them right last night, with the exception of the penalty that gave Leeds 2 points at the start and he missed Watkins' knock on, but then that was only obvious after TV replays.
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| Watkins decision was marginal, but correct.
The crowd booed because they probably saw the replay, saw he didn't get the ball down straight away and turned to shoot at the reg whilst the video shows him grounding at the third attempt
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