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| There aren't really any mitigating circumstances, otherwise you could go all Mike Tyson at any wriggly play-the-ball.
There's context & history: that he hasn't done it before in a long career, but he did do it and I can't see a not guilty plea working.
Personally don't think quick punch-ups are that big a deal compared to dangerous tackles, but the 2012 version of the RFL obviously do given that they've banned plenty for similar, and consistency would see Kylie banned too.
Technically, can't we recall Amor for the next few games?... ![Smile icon_smile.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Contest it, don't take the guilty plea.
I want to watch the Wigan fans on the VT combust when he gets off with a warning.'"
They'll combust regardless. If the RFL banned him for life they'd want his corpse banning too.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Should get 2 games.
He assaulted a smaller bloke who was on the floor so he's only himself to blame.'"
So now you get banned depending on the size of the player you are hitting?
Robbie will have a field day every week.
He could go round lamping anyone he wants but because he is small he should be let off with a caution.
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| Quote ="craigizzard"There aren't really any mitigating circumstances, otherwise you could go all Mike Tyson at any wriggly play-the-ball.
There's context & history: that he hasn't done it before in a long career, but he did do it and I can't see a not guilty plea working.
Personally don't think quick punch-ups are that big a deal compared to dangerous tackles, but the 2012 version of the RFL obviously do given that they've banned plenty for similar, and consistency would see Kylie banned too.
Technically, can't we recall Amor for the next few games?...
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Leuluai will be taken care of. I am personally overseeing the situation, there will be no mistakes this time.
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| If the default ban for an early plea is 1 match, presumably you can reject that approach, go there and still plead guilty but demonstrate an outstanding disciplinary record and various mitigating circumstances with the aim of getting no ban but just a fine?
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| He could still plead guilty and might not get a ban depending on his previous.
I would say 1 match ban considering.
What is the difference other than one extra punch to that incident at Wembley?
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| Peter Fox punched Kylie twice and Kylie retaliated. If Kylie deserves a ban then Fox does. Don't ban someone because they are bigger and have a better punch.
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| I don't really understand the RFL.
Mclorum cops a sending off and ban for a punch
Kyle gets haulled up for potential ban
Wood punches ablett to the chops and gets let off.
No one would worry if everyone got treated the same but it all seems typical RFL not very clear
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Should get 2 games.
He assaulted a smaller bloke who was on the floor so he's only himself to blame.'"
What has the size of the bloke on the floor got to do with it?
According to Adam Hills (c4 last leg) its ok to hit a disabled person if he is being a nob!! so why not a bloke who is a couple of inches and a stone or 3 lighter???
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| Hand bags at ten paces,I'm from the old school when a biff was a biff .
At the end of the match both players had a laugh and a smile for each other.
The game was played in good spirit, end of story.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Should get 2 games.
He assaulted a smaller bloke who was on the floor so he's only himself to blame.'"
I hope Kylie escapes ban free. I'll know when I hear you beefing over the pennines.
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| Quote ="lothlorian"a stray elbow is irrelevant. Fox certainly did nothing wrong and was on the floor defenceless and he hit him with 2 good ones. If he doesnt put the early plea in he'll be lucky not to get 2 games.'"
2 'good ones' - really??
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| Without getting into the rights and wrongs of a ban, it's sad that for ten seconds of red mist any player could end up missing what could otherwise be the last game of their career.
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| Quote ="joshua102"He retaliated to a stray elbow off Fox, As been mentioned he has good record so should be OK, Would be more concerned had it been Ryan Bailey'"
Bailey's disciplinary record is nowhere near as bad as people make out.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"2 'good ones' - really??'"
In my opinion, it's a good job he never hit him with 2 'good ones' and that they were slightly glancing blows. Kylie would probably have killed him had he hit Fox 'properly' in that situation!
Not so sure that Fox's elbow was a stray one, I think there was some intent to catch Kylie with something, which is probably why we saw the fairly uncharacteristic punching.
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| On the basis of what happened I'd expect an appearance before the panel, on the basis of the player involved and that his offence appeared to be in reaction to whatever the opponent did first - I'd expect any resultant penalty to be at the lenient end of the scale ala Paul Wood after Wembley.
The RFL Disciplinary Panel will do as they deem fit but I'd be disappointed for Leuluai if he is banned.
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| Quote ="tvoc"On the basis of what happened I'd expect an appearance before the panel, on the basis of the player involved and that his offence appeared to be in reaction to whatever the opponent did first - I'd expect any resultant penalty to be at the lenient end of the scale ala Paul Wood after Wembley.
The RFL Disciplinary Panel will do as they deem fit but I'd be disappointed for Leuluai if he is banned.'"
When I saw it I though "That was Stupid". Provoked or not (can't see much from the replays), in the 79th minute of a play-off game such a reaction is stupid and could well cost him, and us next week.
I have no sympathy if the RFL ban him, which I think they will do and rightly. As Mr Chicken would say BDL
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| Quote ="The Eagle"When I saw it I though "That was Stupid". Provoked or not (can't see much from the replays), in the 79th minute of a play-off game such a reaction is stupid and could well cost him, and us next week.
I have no sympathy if the RFL ban him, which I think they will do and rightly. As Mr Chicken would say BDL'"
That's the long and short of it.
Getting in a tangle with a winger with seconds to go, daft.
Kylie should have read the script from one of the other forwards in knowing how to kill the clock down in a better manner. Cramp anyone?
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| Quote ="tvoc"
The RFL Disciplinary Panel will do as they deem fit but I'd be disappointed for Leuluai if he is banned.'"
There's a turn up for the books. You usually hope for Leeds players to cop a ban before big games.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"That's the long and short of it.
Getting in a tangle with a winger with seconds to go, daft.
Kylie should have read the script from one of the other forwards in knowing how to kill the clock down in a better manner. Cramp anyone?'"
Was his tantrum at the PTB another good way to kill the clock or put your team under pressure?
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| You can see clearly that fox takes two shots at him first but still very stupid and also unlike Kylie
Could get banned and would be a massive loss for us on friday in what is normally a very physical forward heavy game
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| Quote ="G1"There's a turn up for the books. You usually hope for Leeds players to cop a ban before big games.'"
Do I or do I try to judge each case on it's merits?
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| Quote ="Seth"Was his tantrum at the PTB another good way to kill the clock or put your team under pressure?'"
Classic Bailey tantrum that.
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"You can see clearly that fox takes two shots at him first but still very stupid and also unlike Kylie
Could get banned and would be a massive loss for us on friday in what is normally a very physical forward heavy game'"
I remember fox flapping around on the floor, didn't see anything that warranted Kylies actions though.
In terms of Friday it would be a loss, but we have depth in that area, and players who can play much longer minutes too
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| Slap on the wrist and £300 - bet ya?
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