So he had a super successful career, then for his last two season’s in part of poor teams you expect him to carry or motivate that poor team to sucess?

Either way that is a totally different situation thatn what he finds himself in now.

He might be terrible as interim coach but it seems some want to write him off before hes had a go.

Everyone wanted Agar gone, but it was obvious that it would be JJB or Long who took over in the interim, not sure what people were expecting TBH.

Let’s see what happens

Totally agree

This pretty much sums it up for me, theres a debate about how motivational people find JJB, but thats just each to there own, for me his waffle is way too much, but its not me that needs motivating, hopfully it works for the players and we get a few performances out of them.

As chris says, it was always going to be JJB as interim so hopfully he has a positive impact until our new, long term coach is hired

Perhaps because they were both at the Super league Coaches meeting.

What is needed here isn't harder work on the training field its smarter work on the field. JJB ethic is all about hard work and commitment not quality and skill level. The former will not deliver the latter. Most 22 year olds with a modicum of intellect can see that. Leeds are losing games because they play dumb rugby - JJB has been an integral part of the preparation of the players who have delivered that dumb rugby.

So what’s your solution, sack JJB aswell?

We needed an interim coach who’s your suggestion. You’re talking as if JJB is the clubs answer when it’s clearly not, they are looking for s new head coach and you can’t magic one out of thin air.

Why not wait until he’s been in charge for a bit rather than a.writing him off and B. Guessing what young players think of him.

You couldn't write it Christopher could you. Some of what i am reading on here is laughable.

We shouldn't sack JJB lol.
I think a lot of fans ( myself included) are worried the same mistakes will happen again and that we will be here again next season with the same coaching / player/ squad issues and deficiencies.

So seeing JJB promoted and the rumoured list of replacements being OK to meh is frustrating many.

I'd love to JJB develop into an excellent coach,but that takes time and would be helped by being understudy to a good or great coach.
It won't be helped if he's in charge of Leeds before he's ready

JJB is the interim coach, people are talking about it as if he’s the new long term head coach.

Who would you have put in charge in the interim?

And who would you want as Head Coach that isn’t on this rumoured list?

Im as worried as any one by the way but will give JJB s chance before writing him off

There is no one else to fill the interim position. It was always going to be him. I just hope we get someone in to take over, if that means JJB is coach this season,all we need to do is not get relegated.
It's after this season that worries.

Ward,McGuire,Vowles,etc. Very few mentioned could be considered top drawer. Some stink of straight up bottom draw/ cheap option.
We have been "rebuilding" for what feels like 7 years now and we are still waist deep in that process. It has to start moving forward and we need to move towards being a top 4 club.

We don’t even know if that ‘list’ is genuine so it’s pointless assuming were going for a cheap/bottom drawer option. We can’t do anything but wait and see who get’s the job, even then we don’t know it’ll be a flop or not.

The problem with these ‘rebuilds’ is nothing is guaranteed, it’s utterly frustrating i admit.

Agreed regarding the authenticity of the list(s) , just saying that real or not they don't really sound that good.

I'm hoping the players will buck up and start playing with some effort and heart.

I just hope we don't stick in a rut again.
With hindsight Brian should have gone sooner.
With hindsight Agar should have done so too, especially so given he wasn't meant to be a long term solution. Just hope that interim coach JJB doesn't become a permanent fixture in the absence of a proper plan.

Well said.

Some people really do over react if you say anything negative.

JJB has been a great servant to Leeds, hes passionate and enthusiastic. He played a much bigger part in our success than given credit for. He was a key man. He deserves huge credit as a kid in having the brains and foresight to follow Sinfield and not go down a different path as some others did in the academy in those times did. I really respected Jamie for that and always have until recent times. Hes not my cup of tea as a person these days, i cant take him seriously, I genuinely cant listen to him. Thats my own personal issue but I hope he can get us playing in the short term.

I really think the last thing this current team needs is to be constantly reminded of how the golden generation did it. They are under enough pressure as it is.

I’ll be happy if I never have to hear the word ‘middle’ again from a coach. Just so lazy and unimaginative……..

I doubt it would make you happy Shabs

I dont mind what he says,if on field play improves

I'm not sure anyone doesn't want JJB to succeed in the short term. But we must avoid the risk of an 'interim' coach getting good/OK results leading to their permanent appointment, the inevitable longer-term disappointment and then back to square one. We've just seen exactly that with Agar, and its happened numerous times with other clubs.

The short-term is important, but fundamental changes are required and we need a high quality coach to get us there. Going cheap and/or in-house with yet another old boy seems the least likely way to succeed in the long term.

It's not just a Leeds thing, it's the approach across the game. Both in attack and defence 8, 10 and 13 play pretty much the same role these days across the board. You may have someone with better hands at 13, but the pivot at 13 doesn't happen. That extra pivot is at 1 these days. All middles do a ton of defense and will attack in similar phases and positions. I don't see why people on here have such a problem with it.

I think it's because Agar seemed to refer exclusively to the average plodders as middles ie Thompson and Donaldson and seemingly as a way of convincing himself (or anyone else) that they were appropriate in one of those 3 meter making high work rate positions. I can't remember him referring to Oledzki or prior as a middle?

I couldn't agree more. In sports, a team in the short-term can run on fumes of an increase in morale when a new coach comes in, but long-term success will always be achieved by quality coaching not just being likeable.

For years now, we go into the season with an inadequate coaching set up, screw the season up nice and early, waste the season trying to survive focusing only on the short-term then go into the next season and do it all again. Until we actually hire a quality coach, we just repeat the same mistakes and never actually move forward.

I think we as Leeds fans can accept that in one season we aren't just going to magically compete at the top, but we need to see a long-term plan and the club actually moving forward. Continuing with Agar again this season just reeks of accepting mediocrity. My patience is wearing thin now, not because we're not winning everything, but because the transition to us building a coaching line-up that can once again compete hasn't even started yet despite Brian McDermott leaving in 2018.

Stop-gap after stop-gap, constantly fire fighting, complete short-termism and having to buy cheap buy twice. I think it's fair to say the decision-making has been horrendous at the top.

JJB "I've looked in the fuse box there's some loose connection that need repairing"

Is he coaching the team or fixing the floodlights?

Well shabs did want the coaches to use more imaginative language





I understood him perfectly but then again Ive been in far too many marketing meetings where these type of daft analogies are common place

A truly cringeworthy effort I heard this week was "let's pop that one in the thought fridge for now".
Retirement can't come soon enough...

I agree with that, but with Agar gone it won't be the last you hear of it, but hopefully used better, and with better players.

No issue with Donaldson. He's a hard worker, solid defender and has a heart of a lion. I don't feel the same about Thompson. Just mediocre in every department.