Oh, it must be true then..

And Klein telling Ganson what to give when he was not allowed to at MM WAS in order was it? Like so many on here said it was at the time? Double-standards par excellence on display from one or two on here, I suggest.

And anyway - watching it on TV, the ref's calls were correct. For the offside: pedantic but correct. For the knock-on: you could see the ball end up further forward than it started, but after coming off the hand, and there was no attempt to pass. Knock on.

Same decision indeed as the pass to Pryce in the GF Bulls vs Saints a few years ago, when a ball to Pryce (who ran the try in) was deemed to have been touched by Mick Withers so was ruled a knock-on. Recall most from Leeds at the time were with the vidref on that one, so again its double-standards from some? (Incidentally, on the Withers incident, the difference was a. only the vidref saw the ball change trajectory and go forward after passing Withers and b. Mick assured me personally he never touched the ball...)

Your first try was off a clear forward pass. Even the wassock Stevo called that one. It happens. As a Bulls fan...live with it. Our second try could (and I suspect by most other vidrefs WOULD) have been pulled for the Newton incident. JJB would never have got anywhere near Jeffries, and the incident was nothing worse than a barge but even so I'm surprised it was given. It happens. As a Leeds fan...live with it. They evened out, I'd say?

Two eight-page (so far) threads criticising the decisions is the sort of thing people on here used to play hell with us over on the neo-Southstander known as RAB for doing! One or two on here are starting to look just like so many Bulls fans used to look - thinking you should be winning every game, and looking elsewhere for the excuses when another club has the damned cheek to post a win against you. IMHO, of course.

You'll still almost certainly be in the GF having won nearly all your games - you'll not likely meet a team again this season with so much to prove and so much need to win - so I really don't think its worth all this apoplexy from some over what was just a bad day a the office?

I dont.

The decisions were correct, well apart from the forward passes.

You logged on and that was the total suym of your posts last night.

The total sum of your posts was a clear misunderstanding of the rules.

Summed up perfectly, especially the pedantic but correct.

May as well lock the thread now, nothing more needs to be said.

no a forward pass is one player passing it to another player forward hence the emphasis on the word pass

, a knock on is well a knock on ie projecting the ball in a uncontrolled manner in a forward direction .

this is not my view but my 9 year old son .

Are you smarter than a 10 year old?

You evidently dont have the thought capacity for this.

If a player goes to catch it and knocks it forward and another player catches it its a knock on. However it has also been an unintentional forward pass.

You are no smarter than an incredibly stupid 10 year old.

HTH

No definatley not. Some of us are making the rest of us look like Stains fans!

Seems to me that quite a bit of those eight page threads are taken up with 'some' Leeds fans correcting and trying in vain to educate the other Leeds fans unhappy with some of the calls.

Not sure that point is coming across in your general condemnation of the fan base here.

Yup, fair call, and I'm more than happy to clarify. I was not in any way seeking to "condemn" the general fan base. Far from it - probably more sensible RL fans on this board - amongst the old hands, anyway - than most others.

I've been around on Southstander for long enough to spot a fekkwit with my eyes shut

- so yes I am happy to agree its down to a few stubborn but misguided flat-earthers. I DID say "one or two on here", in my post, after all?

I hope some will bear that in mind too, when looking in with incredulity on the drivel coming from some of our own flat-earthers on RAB!

a pass is intentional

a knock on is unintentional and if a player who is in front of that player picks the ball up then it would be penalised for offside because of the intent of the reciving player . but hey don't let facts cloud your judgment . 4/10

We were poor, the ref wasn't. He made some calls that most miss. People spend hour after hour writing thread after thread criticising the refs for their performance (although some are less keen to cast that critical eye over our squad and coaching staff at the moment) and when one (or two) of their number spot a little-known infringement, they're the ones at fault?
We are poor at the moment when compared to our recent standards. End of the world? No.

All this talk of getting old
It's getting me down my love
Like a cat in a bag, waiting to drown
This time I'm comin' down

The drugs dont work Danny... stay off them!

Can I transfer from the paracetamol and get some of what mutley cat is on? They're hallucogenic and make you talk in riddles or simply repeat what someone just said but make you argue it anyway.

Thats the sum of his posts on this board the last few days.

TBF I feel like I have been repeating the same stuff to the majority over that period of time. It's like banging your head against a brick wall (or in Damo's case just a brick) trying to get through to them.

i would love to see a try scored from a scrum that gets refered and the vid ref chalk it off for feeding!! that would be a thred really worth having!! or maybe not

So... please explain exactly why Burrow's try was disallowed – I believe it was something to do with a Frenchman, a Kiwi and a failed attempt to retract appropriately.

...or the same scenario from an incorrect PTB (which, by the rule book, 99% of them are these days)

great comeback , but at least you've been educated a little

Actually a ruling was brought in a couple of years back where you only have to make an attempt at playing it now and the foot doesnt have to touch. Obv if you just roll the ball through without ever moving your feet its an automatic penalty.

How many of them are ignored in a match???

I'm more concerned that on Friday the Ref was telling he Video Ref what to do, rather than asking his advice.

IMO Smith used the 'big screen' to confirm Webb was offside and then told Halibut to declare 'No Try' and then late in the game told Halibut it was a knock on. IMO if a knock on is caught in front by a player from the same side, it's a forward pass, and you cannot rule against that using Video.

Anyway, we lost. Bulls won their cup final.

No more discussions from me re the loss.

Were you as concerned at MM when the Vidref was telling the ref on the field what to do? In an instruction (since shown to have been wrong anyway) which changed the outcome of the game. And especially when SL clubs had all been assured that that would never happen? If you are concerned about Mr Smith, you must surely have been incandescent over messrs. Klein & Ganson? Were you?

Were you making any allowance for the fact that M. Alibert's first language is not English, so he may have needed a bit more clarification about what was being asked of him than others would?

Also, just wondering how you gained the impression the ref should have been asking the vidref for "advice", when it was the vidref ti actually make the decision?

Just curious...