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| Quote ="Lawrie L"4 games? We're paying him "mega bucks" (apparently) should do it every time he walks onto the pitch'"
Did he contribute virtually nothing last season?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Did he contribute virtually nothing last season?'"
Gotcha..other than those "4" amazing performances he had last year, what did he do the rest of the time he was on the pitch?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Did he contribute virtually nothing last season?'"
4 games out of a possible 30+ is virtually nothing.
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| Quote ="Era of the Biff"4 games out of a possible 30+ is virtually nothing.'"
But it's 4 games more than Diskin influenced anything paramount. Are we therefore applying the same comments?
And we all know it was a lot less than 30 games.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"But it's 4 games more than Diskin influenced anything paramount. Are we therefore applying the same comments?
And we all know it was a lot less than 30 games.'"
Diskin influenced the Grand Final
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| Quote ="Gotcha"But it's 4 games more than Diskin influenced anything paramount.'"
Is it?
Different types of players bring different qualities to the team.
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| this comment from Gotcha on another thread could quite easily apply to Buderus
Quote ="Gotcha"You have to understand though that to certain posters on here, all these players are super human and there will never be a time that it is a year too far.
Or maybe because it is Kirke it might be different on this occasion.'"
say one thing.....
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"this comment from Gotcha on another thread could quite easily apply to Buderus
say one thing.....'"
It does apply to Buderus, it also certainly applies to Diskin and others. What's the point you are making?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"It does apply to Buderus, it also certainly applies to Diskin and others. What's the point you are making?'"
Intresting, you think Diskin maybe "past it"?
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| As a neutral in this debate here are links to highlights for the 4 games mentioned.
I've not bothered watching them yet so can't comment and remember they are only highlights.
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/video/player.php?id=411Cas away[/url
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/video/player.php?id=458Wakey away[/url
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/video/player.php?id=429Hudds home[/url
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/video/player.php?id=462Hull KR home[/url
Yes I'm sad but friday = avoid doing work
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"As a neutral in this debate here are links to highlights for the 4 games mentioned.
I've not bothered watching them yet so can't comment and remember they are only highlights.
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/video/player.php?id=411Cas away[/url
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/video/player.php?id=458Wakey away[/url
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/video/player.php?id=429Hudds home[/url
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/video/player.php?id=462Hull KR home[/url
Yes I'm sad but friday = avoid doing work'"
intresting
so not against any of the big 4
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"intresting
so not against any of the big 4'"
He was instrumental in the defeats to Salford and Harlequins though.
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"As a neutral in this debate here are links to highlights for the 4 games mentioned.
I've not bothered watching them yet so can't comment and remember they are only highlights.
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/video/player.php?id=411Cas away[/url
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/video/player.php?id=458Wakey away[/url
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/video/player.php?id=429Hudds home[/url
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/video/player.php?id=462Hull KR home[/url
Yes I'm sad but friday = avoid doing work'"
Thank you for the input Mr Soprano, and appreciated.
And allthough much more reflective than a minority fan poll, I don't think highlights can show exactly what I said.
Take Wakefield away for instance. We we were down something like 28-16, with just over 10 minutes left, with many fans leaving the stadium after writing it off. We were completely been dominated, Wakefield were keeping us in our half, and we could not get out. We introduced Buderus off the bench at this time, and the whole momentum changed. Much faster passing out of dummy half, and some good needed metres, along with supporting two of the breaks. That influenced that result big time.
Do highlights show that?
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"intresting
so not against any of the big 4'"
No but 2 of those teams finished in the "top 4" rather than missing the playoffs like one of the supposed "big 4"
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| Quote ="Gotcha"
Take Wakefield away for instance. We we were down something like 28-16, with just over 10 minutes left, with many fans leaving the stadium after writing it off. We were completely been dominated, Wakefield were keeping us in our half, and we could not get out. We introduced Buderus off the bench at this time, and the whole momentum changed. Much faster passing out of dummy half, and some good needed metres, along with supporting two of the breaks. That influenced that result big time.
Do highlights show that?'"
Do highlights show Wallet boy started the game and contributed to us being down in the first place?
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"Do highlights show Wallet boy started the game and contributed to us being down in the first place?'"
Are you sure about that now Loz? Really Really sure?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Are you sure about that now Loz? Really Really sure?'"
according to the rlfans Super League stats section there on the top right
are you slagging off a rlfans site here?
EDIT: even in SouthStanders match report he started: [url=http://leeds.rlfans.com/readarticle.php?article_id=1220here[/url
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"intresting
so not against any of the big 4'"
As Buderus is reasonably unlikely to play against one of the big 4 while he is contracted to play for one of them, who replaces Leeds in the quartet?
Teams finishing 3rd and 4th at the end of the regular rounds would have a better claim than teams who finished outside the top 8 in 2009. Indeed all 4 of the opponents mentioned made last season's play-offs.
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| Quote ="tvoc"As Buderus is reasonably unlikely to play against one of the big 4 while he is contracted to play for one of them, who replaces Leeds in the quartet?
Teams finishing 3rd and 4th at the end of the regular rounds would have a better claim than teams who finished outside the top 8 in 2009. Indeed all 4 of the opponents mentioned made last season's play-offs.'"
ok, not the best term I could have used
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Thank you for the input Mr Soprano, and appreciated.
And allthough much more reflective than a minority fan poll, I don't think highlights can show exactly what I said.
Take Wakefield away for instance. We we were down something like 28-16, with just over 10 minutes left, with many fans leaving the stadium after writing it off. We were completely been dominated, Wakefield were keeping us in our half, and we could not get out. We introduced Buderus off the bench at this time, and the whole momentum changed. Much faster passing out of dummy half, and some good needed metres, along with supporting two of the breaks. That influenced that result big time.
Do highlights show that?'"
I'd agree. He played really well against Wakefield.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Thank you for the input Mr Soprano, and appreciated.
And allthough much more reflective than a minority fan poll, I don't think highlights can show exactly what I said.
Take Wakefield away for instance. We we were down something like 28-16, with just over 10 minutes left, with many fans leaving the stadium after writing it off. We were completely been dominated, Wakefield were keeping us in our half, and we could not get out. We introduced Buderus off the bench at this time, and the whole momentum changed. Much faster passing out of dummy half, and some good needed metres, along with supporting two of the breaks. That influenced that result big time.
Do highlights show that?'"
I did say they were only highlights
You said that win was down to Ganson not so long ago?
[urlhttp://viewtopic.php?f=33&t=444148&p=14914914&hilit=wakefield#p14914914[/url
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While G1's argument that the Buderus money could be better spent elsewhere hasn't changed, the claim he has offered us nothing looks slightly confusing considering his comment on page 2 of the above thread.
By the way, yes I am bored at work.
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While G1's argument that the Buderus money could be better spent elsewhere hasn't changed, the claim he has offered us nothing looks slightly confusing considering his comment on page 2 of the above thread.
By the way, yes I am bored at work.
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"You said that win was down to Ganson not so long ago?
[urlhttp://viewtopic.php?f=33&t=444148&p=14914914&hilit=wakefield#p14914914[/url'"
I said what?
I was arguing with the Wakefield fans that Ganson was ridiculously one sided to them, and intimated that had =#FF0040they(Wakfield) won, it would have been down to Ganson.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I said what?
I was arguing with the Wakefield fans that Ganson was ridiculously one sided to them, and intimated that had =#FF0040they(Wakfield) won, it would have been down to Ganson.'"
You also stated that the final 13 mins were no different to the preceding 67. 
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